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Jul 21st, 2025 | | | | Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 7 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 7 | I have a question about a 1951 3800 Series truck that I am considering. The serial number on the left door hinge pillar is not the number on the title. I think from My experience that the Vin and serial number are the same and should be on the Title. If the title is not right it is a deal breaker to me. Anyone know of exceptions to this? Truck built in Janeville plant in May of 1951 # 2713 Thanks Bill in Illinois. | | | | | Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,201 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,201 | It could have been titled with the engine serial number, located on a flat spot between the distributor and starter. If it's not that number or the one on the door jamb plate, I agree, no deal. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 | What code is on the title?
| | | | | Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,596 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,596 | If the seller is willing to get the title changed to the cab serial number (provided it's titled by the engine serial number), you could ask him to get the title changed, or you could request it to be changed. If it's titled as the engine serial number it's not a big deal.
| | | | | Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 59 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 59 | does it still have the original engine? | | | | | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,383 Ex Hall Monitor | | Ex Hall Monitor Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,383 | 'Tmater is right about the "vin" often being the engine number pre '56. If the engine was pulled without being re-titled there are often a lot of hoops to jump through. As Tim said, post the VIN here and we should be able to help you.
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| | | | | Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,544 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,544 | In Wisconsin if the vehicle still has the original engine in it or available for inspection a state patrol officer can verify the number on the block vs. the title and then will take the VIN plate # and certify it. Then send it all to the state with a title fee and a fresh title comes back with the VIN on it. | | | | | Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,596 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,596 | My dad bought a 33 dodge coupe out of Montana last year. The serial number on the title was the engine serial number, but since the engine had been changed and the motor mounts for the new engine went over where the engine number was stamped on the frame, they had to have it re-certified. It took a while and they had to jump through hoops but there was no problem getting it done. | | | | | Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,781 Master Gabster | | Master Gabster Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,781 | Put your VIN number here, if it does not check out, put in the tag number found on the drivers side door pillar. As pointed out by others, the engine number was used by many jurisdictions. If the owner is willing to handle the DMV it may be ok. Does the tag look original to the truck? | | | | | Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 33 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 33 | When I type my VIN it says my Pick up is 61’ !… but its actually 41 ! and all my #s are matching hmmm | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,262 | When I type my VIN it says my Pick up is 61’ !… but its actually 41 ! and all my #s are matching hmmm What is your vehice ID (vehicle serial number)? | | | | | Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 300 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 300 | i brought a 1954 p.u. from a man in mich.
and the vec. was from ill.,they titled it
with engine# but engine had been changed
i call the sec.of state in mich.and they
faxed a paper to fill out and have the
police fill out part of the form
and sent it in and got new title with
the vin. from the door jam on it. | | |
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