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Hello,

I started tearing down my 1949 Chevrolet 3100 Truck and ran across something that I am stumped on with the front brakes. It looks like a previous owner swappped the complete front hubs to a 5 lug setup. The back plate was mounted using the top two holes and then since the bottom two holes did not line up they welded the bolt to the back plate. The drum has a 5 lug pattern. This is the case on both the driver and passenger sides. The rear end appears original and is still 6 lug. I understand people go to 5 lug for various reasons on the front AND rear but why would someone put 5 lug hubs only on the front of the truck? I am assuming this was done early on in the life of the truck. Also It looks like maybe this was from a car since it is 5 lug. Does this sound correct?


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the front hubs from cars of the era fit the truck spindles, if the backing plates were changed as well, maybe it has Bendix brakes instead of Huck? the person who modified things is the only one who could possibly tell you why he did it, never know what happened down on the farm wink


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It does look like it has Bendix brakes on the front and still has the Huck brakes on the rear.

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I am glad you brought this subject up, I am thinking about upgrading the front end on my 55 3100 so I would be left with 6 lug rear end also. The question I have is can the rear axles be changed to 5 lug maybe car axles?

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Larry - you'd need to get the axle flanges redrilled for the proper 5 bolt pattern or find a different rear end, the axles don't interchange

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Thanks, I guess rear end change would be the best move.

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Daily driver only vehicle, Huck brakes. 70 k miles, can lock up the brakes with the best of them. You guys are getting caught up in advertising; 'upgrade' is money in their pockets, not yours.




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Just because you can lock up your brakes doesn't mean they will perform the same as upgraded brakes. Your stopping distances could be different.


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The big problem with Huck brakes is keeping them adjusted properly. They have a habit of wearing out only one brake lining on a side. Back when a lot of cars ran those brakes, flat-rate mechanics had a nasty habit of only changing the worn-out brake shoe, and hiding the other new one somewhere. After a few of those situations, they would have enough pigeonholed parts to rebuild their own brakes, or do a shade-tree job at home using parts they didn't have to pay for! Dad had to watch his employees like a hawk to prevent those kinds of shenanigans, and it cost more than one wrench jockey his job for pulling stunts like that!
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Jerry,
I knew a few guys/oldtimers back in the day that would just flipflop the shoe sets from left to right and adjust them up.
So as to get the almost umworn back shoe to wear and then the next time a whole reline was in order.
Not saying its right but......
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