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#886375 10/02/2012 11:16 AM
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Im just wondering if they used the same cabs for the 1/2 3/4 1 to s? In 1953

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Cabs are the same all the way up to the 2 tons, exept for the COE trucks.


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welcome to the garage rat, look around a bit - all conventional cabs are the same for any year - so you could interchange any of the models you list, including the front clips - the 1.5T and above use different front sheet metal and the fenders in particular are much different for the big ones

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Hey thanks so much that's what I thought but I just wanted to be sure. I'm picking up my 53 gmc this weekend and am looking toward to being part if this family.

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I remember a post awhile back about running boards. There are some differences in running boards.


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There are 3 different lengths of running boards, obviously, for the 1/2, 3/4, and 1 ton. However the front running board bracket and the bracket at the end of the cab (mounted on the frame) are in the same location for the 3 above mentioned sizes. A rack body uses a short running board that ends at the rear on the cab. This short board only requires 2 mounting brackets (on the frame) therefore all three size trucks in the rack body or flat bed format will use the same short running boards.

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And the short boards for the 1/2 through 1 ton trucks are different than the short boards that fit 1.5 and 2 ton trucks.


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Hi, I am curious exactly what is the differences in the front sheet metal. I have a 1.5t that I am putting on an s-10 frame and the Fenders look like to me they have a longer length at the front. Also the grille looks like it is a bit wider at the point of the turn lamps. Am I correct as I do not have a 1/2 or 3/4 ton to examnine.

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welcome to the garage rat, look around a bit - all conventional cabs are the same for any year - so you could interchange any of the models you list, including the front clips - the 1.5T and above use different front sheet metal and the fenders in particular are much different for the big ones

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reddie - it depends on the year what the exact differences are, but generally, the big bolt fenders are wider, have a larger wheel opening and a slightly different shape at the front to accommodate the much bigger wheels/tires - grilles may also be wider and higher .... a big bolt front clip on an S10 chassis will look very out of place

you can check the GM factory specs for your year here to see differences in measurements

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Thanks Red great link! If I am looking at the measuements right the fenders on mine are just a scootch over an inch wider on each fender. Before I say 100% one way or the other I am going to hang the front sheet metal when I get to that point and see what it looks mocked up.

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I bet you find the big bolt fenders look silly with small truck wheels in them and all the extra room.


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That was the fear when I started to really think about building this one. All the same I am going to be on the look out for another doghouse.

Mike
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I bet you find the big bolt fenders look silly with small truck wheels in them and all the extra room.


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Doghouse?


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Ahh, that term must not be in use in your area. doghouse refers to the front sheet metal.

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Doghouse?


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I am used to the term doghouse referring to the sheet metal around the rad on late thirties and forties vehicles. It was a self contained structure that had the appearance similar to the front of a doghouse. The AD trucks don't really have that structure.


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The grills on the 1.5 ton and up have taller verticals than the 1/2 thru 1 ton trucks 47-53,because the fenders are taller.
But the grill bars themselves can be used.
In other words,if you have a damaged bar or 2 you can use one from a big truck grill as a replacement.
You can mix and match the bars(they are notched on the back offset from center top to bottom)but you cant mix the verticals.
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There are at least 4 different front fenders
I have seen for GM trucks, there is even a full width, large wheel opening one on school buses and? that I have on my 1 ton, 4WD truck. 3/4 and 1 ton ones have only slightly larger wheel openings than 1/2 ton, but are narrow, never seen a full width, small wheel opening version.


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Ed, youre talking about pre 47conference trucks, other info above is 47-54


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