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Mod | | Forums66 Topics126,777 Posts1,039,270 Members48,100 | Most Online2,175 Jul 21st, 2025 | | | Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 201 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 201 | Anyone know if you can fit a 12 valve cummins in my 1955.2 GMC 350? Also I want to install newer better axles, any ideas? | | | | Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 201 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 201 | | | | | Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 201 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 201 | Anyone know if the 55.2 GMC 350 front axle is similar to the big AD trucks?
Last edited by beast54; 09/10/2012 10:34 PM.
| | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 . | . Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 | Check kingpin dimensions, should be easy to look up in your shop manual. The 2 ton AD trucks have a 1.109" diameter kingpin.
Grigg | | | | Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 201 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 201 | Hmmm I need to get one of those. | | | | Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 201 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 201 | Hey Grigg... Tell me about your Detroit 4-53T.. I'm curious  | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 . | . Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 | That pretty much covers my swap.
About swapping a 4-53T into an AD truck, I think it's as big as I'd ever want to do, it fits but sure is tight. A 3-53T would be a much simpler swap, and one I have planned for my 52 1 ton pickup.
Grigg | | | | Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 201 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 201 | I watched those videos. Took me by surprise on what jumped out of the trees! I couldn't help but chuckle a little bit! That's pretty cool I must say. I don't know much about diesels, thats why the questions. what do the Detroits come out of? | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 . | . Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 | One came out of a 1978 GMC 6500, the one I replaced it with was new in 1985, still new surplus likely intended for stationary equipment.
Grigg | | | | Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 201 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 201 | So is it a 4 cylinder? What's your HP and torque? Mpg? | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 . | . Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 | The newest Silver 4-53T puts out 185 HP at 2500 rpm and 435 ft lb at 1,500 RPM. don't have a real MPG figure yet, with a 7,000-8,000 lb truck I'd hope to see 15-18 mpg.
Grigg | | | | Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 667 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 667 | Hey Grigg --- sounds mighty interesting. Had an old 6V53 (supercharged) in a Blue Bird...is the "T" designation for "Turbo" by any chance? Any pix of that motor?
Also, while I'm not familiar with the Detroits, I do know that modding a stationary engine to over-the-road use can be very tricky with any of the Cummins line. The are set up very differently. | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 . | . Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 | Try the "Click here for all pictures" link in my signature. Yep, the T is for Turbo. I had a 6V53 with twin turbos in a 61 F350, that was quite a truck!
Making a stationary Detroit into a vehicle engine is a quite simple, just change the governor to a limiting speed type if it's not already. Likely you will change oil pickup and sump but not always necessary, and find a flywheel for an automotive clutch.
Detroits are quite simple and easy to work on, and the service manual is very well done.
Grigg | | | | Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 201 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 201 | Hey Grigg, is there other trucks other than the p-30 that have the 1.109 kingpin with disk brakes that will work? | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 . | . Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 | Im condused... the P30 has larger than 1.109" kingpins. Nothing I know of has 1.109" kingpins and disc brakes.
What are you trying to do? Did you checkout the disc brake sticky? | | | | Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 201 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 201 | I looked and i thought i read that if you had the 1.109 kingpin that there are disk brakes you can bolt on . | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 . | . Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,877 | Sort of, still takes some work. The P30 shares brake parts with the 3500HD. Check out the sticky disc brake thread again as it has what I know about them. | | |
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