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#87337 04/27/2002 8:19 PM | Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 114 Member | | Member Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 114 | What kind of voltage reducer will work to run a pair of 6V horns on a 12V system? Can someone recommend a source? Thanks! :confused:
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#87338 04/27/2002 9:12 PM | Joined: May 2001 Posts: 1,904 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: May 2001 Posts: 1,904 | Get this checked out by someone else but I think some folks use the 6-v horns in a 12-v system without a voltage reducer and just don't lay on the horn button. They take a lot of juice and would take a hefty voltage reducer. I think I saw something on this on the Jim Carter web page. 1948 3/4-Ton 5-Window Flatbed Chevrolet 34 Years. Now with a '61 261, 848 head, Rochester Monojet carb, SM420 4-speed, 4.10 rear, dual reservoir MC, Bendix up front, 235/85R16 tires, 12-volt w/alternator, electric wipers and a modern radio in the glove box.
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#87339 04/28/2002 12:58 AM | | Anonymous Unregistered | | Anonymous Unregistered | Jimfred, you are better off installing 12 V horns off of anything made after 1954. I like to use a matched pair of Hi/Low horns which were installed on,Chevs,Pontiacs, Buicks & Cadillacs from the mid to late 50's. | | |
#87340 04/30/2002 2:03 AM | Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 71 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 71 | Use the 6v horns without a reducer. They sound twice as loud as the 12v. We used to change late 50's horns to the 6v, to get the extra noise. They lasted for years, but we didn't blow them long blasts. | | |
#87341 04/30/2002 3:46 AM | | Anonymous Unregistered | | Anonymous Unregistered | I have done the same thing. Eventually running 12 Volts through the 6 Volt horns turns the contact points into something resembling burnt toast. | | |
#87342 05/09/2002 9:40 PM | Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 36 Member | | Member Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 36 | You say you have TWO six volt horns? Put them in series -- 2 sixes is twelve. (do not put them in parallel as all of the worst comments above will apply) cheers | | |
#87343 05/14/2002 3:23 PM | Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 114 Member | | Member Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 114 | Ummmm, how do you put horns in series? :confused:
Jim
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#87344 05/15/2002 1:14 AM | Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 14 Member | | Member Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 14 | Ummmm, how do you put horns in series? Yeah, that's the tricky part as the horns ground through their mounts. Mount one of the horns using some sort of non conductive material so that it will not ground. Run your horn lead to the terminal of the ungrounded horn. Run a wire from the body of the ungrounded horn to the terminal of the second (grounded) horn. That should do it.
Barrett Revis '53 3105 '48 3105 The fewer the moving parts, the less there is to go wrong... | | |
#87345 05/16/2002 5:36 AM | Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 36 Member | | Member Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 36 | Be careful to use non-conductive screws too. Or -- perhaps you could mount the horn to a non-conductive backing like a block of wood and then mount that block of wood to the metal with separate screws. Whatever you do, you don't want the horn grounded to the body/frame. jerry | | |
#87346 05/16/2002 7:19 AM | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 109 Member | | Member Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 109 | I've gotta pair of 6 volt horns in my 86 Suburban that I've had for over 10 years in about as many cars.......... never a problem and certainly LOUD!!!!!!!!!! Impress yer friends and soil their shorts! I also have a pair in my '97 Saturn....... gets noticed.
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#87347 05/16/2002 3:38 PM | Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 124 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 124 | Most all horns will do fine on 12 volt unless you live in a bad neighborhood and experience a lot of road rage and are honking your horns constantly. If you want to reduce the voltage to the horns and not use a reducer, you can use high resistance primary wire like **** used in their ignitions during the early 1960's. The resistance wire took the place of the ballast resistor. The spool itself will say how much resistance per foot the wire has, but usually a 24" to 27" inch piece will lower voltage down to the 7.5 voltage range. The local full line auto parts store should have high resistance primary ignition wire in stock. By the way the military used this same trick for gauges in helicopters during the Vietnam era. The electrical systems were all 24 volt but the gauges in the dash were 12-volt. Hence the loops of wire hanging off the back of the dash gauges. Many well meaning mechanic types assumed that the wire was just extra wire hanging there so they did somene a favor and removed all of the excess wire and replaced it with just a short piece of primary wire. Well...you can guess the rest....Thanks, Randy  | | |
#87348 05/22/2002 2:17 PM | Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 99 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 99 | Another thought from the Peanut Gallary would be to use a dash light dimmer switch. Don't know of a US example, but late 1980 240 series Volvo's use a variable dimmer switch that gives a voltage range of less than 4 to over 10. A very small switch that would be easy to mount in or under dash. | | |
#87349 05/22/2002 6:28 PM | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,745 Member | | Member Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,745 | How about mounting the second horn to the first horn? That way the second one is in series with the first one. Just don't have it touch direct ground at all.
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#87350 05/26/2002 11:55 PM | | Anonymous Unregistered | | Anonymous Unregistered | You can really take the loud horn thing to far. If you want a super loud horn and dont want to mess with 6 volt 12 volt problems. Use an air horn from semi-truck. You will need a compressor of some sorts to drive it,but it will blast like a mutha. Even better yet,get a air horn from a train. Maybe even one of those horns off a cruise ship. Now that'l get everyones attention  | | |
#87351 05/28/2002 4:01 PM | Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,571 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,571 | www.big-horn.com The site wasn't up when I checked it this morning, but should (hopefully) be up sometime soon. I met the people who own this beast on my Christmas vacation last year, but they didn't have the Big Horn with them. I bet people would get out of your way if you touched off those ship horns... | | |
#87352 09/19/2002 9:38 PM | Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 62 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 62 | I realize that this is an old thread, but I'm about to encounter the same condition . . . dropping a 6v horn into a 12v truck.
What about putting a big old resistor from Radio Shack in the line coming in to the horn to drop the voltage to 6v? Would something like that work?
Anybody know how much current one of these horns draws? Or where I can get some electrical specifications on horns? | | |
#87353 09/19/2002 10:27 PM | Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 72 Member | | Member Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 72 | What about putting a big old resistor from Radio Shack in the line coming in to the horn to drop the voltage to 6v? Would something like that work?
Anybody know how much current one of these horns draws? Or where I can get some electrical specifications on horns?[/QB][/QUOTE]
howziit guys!
not meant as a putdown...JMO, it's better to GET A METER! :rolleyes:
measure the current value of any electrical doo-hickey in question, so you don't electrocute that rare, precious, hard-to-replace item.
that being said, disconnect the hot lead from the horn, connect the $10 meter(ammeter scale) between the hot and the connection you pulled it off.
put on your earplugs, watch the meter, and have your sadistic buddy honk the horn! :mad:
WRITE THE READING DOWN...as soon as you read it(you DON'T want to do this "horn test" often. LOL!
come back and post your readings; someone here can help you with the final calculations, in finding exactly what resistor(voltage reducer) you'll need.
as Josiah reminded me, you don't want to make a mistake, and have a resistor the size of a banana! ROTFL! :p :p :p
personally...i'd run an ah-ooogah horn, or a VW bug horn, or the original 6V horn, but that's JMO.
Myron
1956 chevy 3100 stepside, Pro-Street stance, mild 454 BBC/350/9"/13" M/T'S, daily driver, aka THE PINK LADY
1957 Bel-Air coupe, 500 HP blown sbc in progress, aka LANI
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