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#87119 08/13/2004 1:29 PM | Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,424 ODSS President | | ODSS President Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,424 | I have a '56 235 with a one wire alternator in my '49. Recently my amp gauge was showing a slight discharge over about a 2 week time frame. Tried to start one morning and very weak battery would not start engine.
Turns out I had a dead cell, bought an 'Optima Red Top' for $97, thought I was good to go, no, still showing discharge, was driving by my favorite alternator shop and my 2 year old alternator needs a rebuild.
Bought a rebuilt alt. for $65, (revealing prices so you guys can compare Virginia prices w/ what you pay in your area), installed, after a day of staying about 60% on the charge side, she's dead set on the middle after initial spurt to nearly max charge.
Did one event beget the other event? Like did my low charging alt. lead to the dead cell? or Did my 4 1/2 year old battery live it's life and contribute to the alternator's demise? Thanks, Cosmo.
~ Cosmo 1949 Chevy Half Ton Rocinante, like Don Quixote, he is awkward, past his prime, and engaged in a task beyond his capacities. "...my good horse Rocinante, mine eternal and inseparable companion in all my journeys and courses." ...Don Quixote, Cervantes "If you come to a fork in the road, take it."...Yogi Berra "Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength." ...Eric Hoffer
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#87120 08/13/2004 1:57 PM | Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 264 Member | | Member Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 264 | I think you did well to get 4 1/2 years out of your battery. 2 years seems about average in south Texas. One drawback of the one wire alternator is that it may not "sense" the correct system voltage and you might be "overvolting" your battery which can drastically shorten its life. Check the volts at your battery with the engine running...I think there should be about 14 volts. | | |
#87121 08/13/2004 2:30 PM | Joined: Feb 2000 Posts: 988 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2000 Posts: 988 | Cosmo It may have been the alternator that took out your alternator. Let me explain. If your alt was going bad then the battery may have been a victom of the Alt. Once the battery went it may have expedited the demise of that alt by over working it to death.
Here is an example that I used when I sold auto parts.
Your battery is like a large glass of water. When you start your car/ truck the starter takes a good size gulp out of the battery. The alt is like a pitcher to refill that glass. However the pitcher ( Alt) only has a small spout so it fills the glass slowly (over time). If you try to charge a dead battery with an Alt it is like trying to fill an Olypic size pool with a hose the size of a straw. Not going to work real well. The Alt job is to top off the glass and run the accessories. In other words it is made for light( ( or lite work) duty. Battery Chargers are made for Heavy duty work.
By the way 4 years is good for a Battery.
Brian Moore 1949 3100 5 window Deluxe "Today is better than yesterday, but not as good as tomorrow" | | |
#87122 08/13/2004 2:48 PM | Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,424 ODSS President | | ODSS President Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,424 | Thanks, guys! The first 2 1/2 years of the batteries life I powered it w/ a Generator, the last 1 1/2 by the now defunct old alternator.
~ Cosmo 1949 Chevy Half Ton Rocinante, like Don Quixote, he is awkward, past his prime, and engaged in a task beyond his capacities. "...my good horse Rocinante, mine eternal and inseparable companion in all my journeys and courses." ...Don Quixote, Cervantes "If you come to a fork in the road, take it."...Yogi Berra "Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength." ...Eric Hoffer
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#87123 08/13/2004 3:03 PM | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,115 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,115 | I am curious why a battery would only last 2 years in Texas. Is it because of the heat ? I always thought that our cold winters were hard on batteries. I used to think that 4 years was about average but nowdays they don't make them like that. | | |
#87124 08/13/2004 3:35 PM | Joined: Feb 2000 Posts: 988 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2000 Posts: 988 | The worst thing for a batter is Heat followed by Vibration and the Cold.
Brian Moore 1949 3100 5 window Deluxe "Today is better than yesterday, but not as good as tomorrow" | | |
#87125 08/14/2004 2:01 AM | Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,067 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,067 | One wire alternators need you to rev the engine to get the alternator started charging. Otherwise, you're running on the battery. If you aren't revving enough to trigger the sensing circuit in the alternator, this could have caused your problem too.
52 GMC 3/4 ton pickup 68 Big Block Vette 68 455 Firebird | | |
#87126 08/14/2004 1:13 PM | Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,424 ODSS President | | ODSS President Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,424 | Fentons w/ dual 30" glasspacks, I REV!!! 
~ Cosmo 1949 Chevy Half Ton Rocinante, like Don Quixote, he is awkward, past his prime, and engaged in a task beyond his capacities. "...my good horse Rocinante, mine eternal and inseparable companion in all my journeys and courses." ...Don Quixote, Cervantes "If you come to a fork in the road, take it."...Yogi Berra "Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength." ...Eric Hoffer
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#87127 08/14/2004 6:29 PM | Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 499 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 499 | You might want to read what these guys have to say about the so called one-wire alternators. http://www.madelectrical.com/electricaltech/onewire-threewire.shtml Wiring a alternator with only one wire does not make it a one-wire alternator. There is a difference. It goes along with what SoTxBoTi and Hot Rod Dad mentioned. One-wire alternators are great for trailer queens that hide all their wiring, but the three wire is a better setup for a daily driver.
'67 GMC 3/4 292 4spd
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