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I have a question about how the old remote Fram oil filters were installed on the intake manifolds of the 216's. I have the oddball shaped "U-bolts" and know where they go but was wondering if the filter was simply butted up against the manifold or if muffler clamp type flanges were used between the filter and manifold since the surface of the manifold is somewhat rounded and the mounting flange on the oil filter is basically flat. This would seem to give a better fit. I was hoping someone could tell me what the correct way of doing this was.

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Here if the vacuum port is on the intake runner. The later models moved the intake port to where the filter mounts so the usual location is on the forward runner. I've seen a few on the aft runner.


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mine is mounted on the firewall on the drivers side http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu14/kurtdh519/001.jpg

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Above is a 216 manifold,
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I think the stand-offs as shown in DADS50 picts would be a good way to go. I have a FRAM with similar spacers so they are probably period correct but hard to come by. I also have 2 flanges from 1 5/8" muffler clamps I can send you if you like. They're almost a perfect fit to a 216 manifold. Butting the filter against the manifold increases the oil temp whereas the stand-offs give some air flow to the canister rear. Just need to be sure the U bolts are long enough. Send a PM if you want the flanges.


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I have the same as Dads50 but I had to find my own U bolts. I used muffler clamp U bolts of the correct size.


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Thanks. I have some muffler clamp flanges I can use. I have the correct odd shaped bolts that came in an NOS kit (or so I was told) but I'm pretty sure the kit was for an AC filter which had the standoffs built into the filter canister.

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DADS50's pictures are of the later 216 manifold with the vacuum port positioned in the center 'box' area as shown in pic 2. The port in his picture has a plug in it. The mounting location he shows for the filter is where I see most filters mounted under that circumstance. Here are the Fram installation instructions for the earlier manifold.


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That is very helpful. So the earlier manifolds had the filter mounted straddling the center box and mounted directly to the box without spacers. I'll give that a try. Our manifold has the vacuum port on the back of the box so it must be the early style.

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Originally Posted by vegiguy
Our manifold has the vacuum port on the back of the box so it must be the early style.

Just the opposite. The early style had the port on intake runner.

"DADS50's pictures are of the later 216 manifold with the vacuum port positioned in the center 'box' area as shown in pic 2."


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So I should mount the oil filter on the front of the intake manifold then?

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That's where they are 'normally' mounted on the later manifolds because of the exhaust port. I have seen them on the back runner but not often. Basically it's whatever works for you.


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Is 1941 is considered later? That's what we have. I don't know if the intake manifold is an original 1941 or not. The front of the intake seems like the best location for now.

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Earlier and Later mean various things, when applied to various Stovebolt engines. With respect to exhaust manifolds, it typically refers to the "down pipe" from the manifold going straight down (all 216s, and 235s from 41-49 (I think)).

1950 and newer 235s and all 261s had a "down pipe" that was angled towards the rear.

I think that there were similar year-differences in the intake manifold port diameters. However, I think that all 216s used the same intake/exhaust manifolds - these might have even changed by shops/owners over the years.


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