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Engine in question is a '70 350/300HP out of a Kingswood station wagon.
Any way I can tell if it's a 4 bolt main without pulling the pan?
Thanks...
Chris | | | | | Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 649 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 649 | Get the casting # off the left rear corner of the block. | | | | | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 | Get the casting # off the left rear corner of the block. That's not 100% proof, though. GM built plenty of 2 bolt main engines using the same block as the 4 bolt main. The casting number is a good start, though, and the serial number stamped on the front of the block will help, too, by identifying the original aplication. Other than that, you really need to pull to pan to know for sure.
Bill Burmeister | | | | | Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 117 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 117 | Fiber optic camera through the drain plug will also do it. Some shops have them around these days for sound diagnostics without disassembly. If the engine is in a car where you can't pull the pan this could be an inexpensive option. | | | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 9,671 | All of the fiber optic borescopes I’ve looked at are in the $300 range, add a camera to that and your looking at a grand. That seems like an expensive way to look inside the crankcase, unless of course you happen to have one in your tool box. I’d go along with Jerry on this one, if it’s out of the vehicle I’d just roll it up on the bell housing and unscrew the pan before I spent that kind of money.
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| | | | | Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 591 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 591 | Just for your info, I had a 1970 Chevelle with a 350/300hp. It was a 2 bolt main. If memory serves correctly, most 350/300hp motors were 2 bolt mains. don | | | | | Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,544 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,544 | As mentioned 350's with the casting numbers ending in "010" come in either 2 bolt main or 4 bolt main. From my experience the 4 bolt main blocks came in LT-1 motors and in heavy duty 3/4 ton and above trucks. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,270 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,270 | All of the fiber optic borescopes I’ve looked at are in the $300 range, add a camera to that and your looking at a grand. That seems like an expensive way to look inside the crankcase, unless of course you happen to have one in your tool box. . . . . DG I am not not suggesting buying one of these inspection cameras from Harbor Freight but the $89 one looks interesting. It looks like it uses LEDs instead of fiber-optics for illumination. | | | | | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 | I have one of those HF cameras. The camera end is too large to fit down the dipstick tube, as it's just a tad over 1/2" in diameter.
Bill Burmeister | | | | | Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,001 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,001 | I doubt a 1970 engine in a station wagon has 4-bolt mains. Usually, the 4-bolt mains were used in the ultra (not that 300hp is not high performance in the day) high performance engines (i.e LT-1) and all truck engines.
The stock 350 CID engine in my 1971 RS Camero was a 2-bolt main that was rated at around 270 HP (I think). I ended up building my own LT-1 from the GM parts department and salvaged truck block and 2.02 angle plug heads. | | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,886 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,886 | The stamped ID number on the front of the block ahead of the passenger's side head will have a "T" in the suffix following the numbers on 4-bolt engines. I used to identify them that way when we were searching salvage yards for engines to build for the round track. Jerry
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