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#72120 01/23/2007 4:00 AM | Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 338 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 338 | I'm heading to the Turlock swap meet next weekend and I was wondering if there is a way of identifying a 4.11 pumpkin out of a 68-72.
I'm thinking of using it to swap out my 40 3/4 ton rear end. If not, I'm conidering a 9" sitting at the local junk yard.
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#72121 01/25/2007 2:08 PM | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 237 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: May 2006 Posts: 237 | Hate to see your post not get answered. Bump.
I had a 1958 5.13 pumpkin and a 1971 4.11 pumpkin setting side by side. Just looking at dimensions (from the outisde) I couldn't tell any difference. The new pumpkin had LOTS more casting marks all over the sides. Especially around the adjustable pinion support area. | | |
#72122 01/25/2007 2:45 PM | Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,384 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,384 | Count the teeth on the ring gear & divide by the # of teeth on the pinion gear. Brian | | |
#72123 01/25/2007 6:33 PM | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 47 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 47 | In My..I don't think that 9" will be 8-lug configuration...are you running a stock front axle?...My '53 3/4 has a '68 F*&d Dana 60 3.73..pretty good fit..still heavy duty,still 8-lug. | | |
#72124 01/25/2007 8:14 PM | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 345 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 345 | INYOUR40's 1) Like fleetside said, you can count the number of teeth on each gear (i.e. 41 Ring gear teeth & 10 Pinion gear teeth =41/10 or 4.10 ratio) or 2) The number of teeth should be stamped on the end of the pinion gear shaft, which is visible from the inside of the differential-bring a flashlight & you may need to reach in and clean off the end. You'll see a bunch of numbers but some will read something like "GM-7-32" which would mean 32 ring gear teeth/7 pinion gear teeth =4.57 ratio. This method is easier. | | |
#72125 01/26/2007 2:43 PM | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 237 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: May 2006 Posts: 237 | It's easy to tell the gear ratio of the pumpkin (just count the teeth). But how do you tell if it's a pumpkin from a 68-72?
I don't know how. | | |
#72126 02/03/2007 3:56 AM | Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 338 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 338 | jhaa_lives are they stamped H072? I've been looking around and I found this description of a GM rear end. I can't tell if it was the same for Chevy, but the GM was use from 50-72. Can you let me know if there are any part numbers on yours? | | |
#72127 02/04/2007 2:38 AM | Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 52 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 52 | jhaa_lives,
A '68-'72 would be a coil-spring setup, so look for the round spring perches and brackets for trailing arms. However, I know '67 is also coil spring, and I think the previous model ('60-'66?) was also. Is there a reason it has to be from a '68-'72?
Paul
1946 GMC 1/2 ton 1967 Chevy 1/2 ton
This old truck sure looks neat, but where are the heated seat controls?!?
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#72128 02/04/2007 2:52 AM | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 | '60-'72 are for the most part coil spring, though some do have leaf spring, mostly 1 ton and 3/4 ton Camper Specials. The reason that you'll want to look for a late ('67-'72) rear is that they are more likely to have the 4.10 ratio. Most of the earlier diffs are either 4.56 or 5.13, depending on wheather they were 3/4 or 1 ton. InMy40s-the diff pic you have linked in is a Chevy diff, most GMCs from '60-'72 use Spicer 60 or 70 diffs. There is also little difference between the HO56 and the HO72. Mainly it's just the original application, the 56 was used in 3/4, the 72 was 1 ton.
Bill Burmeister | | |
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