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| | Forums66 Topics126,777 Posts1,039,270 Members48,100 | Most Online2,175 Jul 21st, 2025 | | | Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 33 Geezer | Geezer Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 33 | What is the preferred or recommended late model rear end to put in my 54 3100.
I am going to use a 4 Bar suspension and have a couple of rear end choices at my disposal.
Thanks,
TC
1966 C20 LWB, 327 4 Bbl., 4 Speed
| | | | Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,201 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,201 | What are we choosing from? Almost any rear will work, some better than others. | | | | Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 192 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 192 | If this helps my '58 Apache has a rear end from a '99 Tahoe. Only issue is it's wider than the original. So previous owner widened the fenders for that and to accommodate wider tires if desired. I have the old school tires on. The rear stance just looks a little wider. Other than that it's great and so are the bigger brakes. | | | | Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,410 ODSS President | ODSS President Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,410 | I continue to find it strange that people do massive change to vehicles as I suspect you are with your 4 Bar only to drive the vehicle maybe on weekends or just to shows.
What I mean is that you could go the 'ultra-cheap-route' as I did and change out my '49 4.10 differential for a '57 3.90, add a '62 Muncie .70 overdrive which yields 2.73 in third overdrive. I have about 55k miles with this configuration, is a daily driver only vehicle, and I just returned from a 900 mile round trip.
That said, I have kept in my files a 1990's article that pops an 8.8 Lincoln four bar with bags (they say its stronger, lighter and has a ton of gearsets w/limited slip) into an AD truck like ours that together with a modification up front is probably the route you are headed.
Good luck with your journey I'm going to follow this thread to see where you and it go.
Regards, Cosmo
~ Cosmo 1949 Chevy Half Ton Rocinante, like Don Quixote, he is awkward, past his prime, and engaged in a task beyond his capacities. "...my good horse Rocinante, mine eternal and inseparable companion in all my journeys and courses." ...Don Quixote, Cervantes "If you come to a fork in the road, take it."...Yogi Berra "Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength." ...Eric Hoffer
| | | | Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 33 Geezer | Geezer Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 33 | Thanks for all the concern, but I am basically just looking for some info as to width or GM model vehicle that has been used in the past. I have access to a large salvage yard that will give me a bunch of choices.. However, it will be all Chevy... no ferd parts on my Chebby...:)
I have done many builds/restro/upgrades in the past, just not one on an AD pickup... so thought it would be easier to utilize the braintrust here than to do my own research....
Thanks,
TC
1966 C20 LWB, 327 4 Bbl., 4 Speed
| | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,393 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,393 | A '55-'57 automatic rear is 3:55 and fits perfectly with little work. But, there are many more options.
Drew
| | | | Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,897 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,897 | You could give us a clue as to how the truck is going to be used, and possibly even what lug configuration you are looking for. There are just way to many undeclared variables for anybody to give you a remotely meaningful answer.
That being said... What lug pattern are you looking for? 6 on 5.5? 5 on 5? 5 on 4.75? These are just a few lug patterns available for chevy.
What about gears, are you looking for low gears like 4.11, or high gears like a 3.08 ratio. Posi?
What kind of brakes? Disc? drum?
Some of the rears that have been sucessfully transplanted to ad chevy trucks include... 10 and 12 bolt truck rear ends, Dana 44 rears, camaro rears, cadillac seville rears. You name it, and it has probably been put in these trucks.
The stock width of the AD truck axle may end up being to narrow for some of the modern rim choices. Because Modern rims tend to have much more backspacing then the older rims, it may be necessary to get a rear that is several inches wider than stock. A stock ad 1/2 ton rear is approximately 61 inches wide.
There isn't one answer here that fits everybody's needs. Figure out what wheels you will be using and start there. Next figure the width of the axle you need. Now you have that figure out the gears, etc. There is plenty of information on rearends on this site. If you conduct a search you will find days worth of reading on the subject.
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| | | | Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 62 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 62 | This may be of some help to you as in finding a donor the right width. The rest can be figured out with a tape measure and also knowing what the backspace is available for the wheels you want to use. Tire bulge is another thing to be aware of. The wider the rim the wider the cross section of the tire. http://www.quickperformance.com/Technical%20Info/sus_measure.htm | | | | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 926 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 926 | I used a rear from a mid 70's GMC 4X4 in my '57,and it was a pretty easy swap. Do you have open or torque tube drive on it? Assuming open,I'd look for a mid to late 50's GMC axle-some were 3.90 many were either 4.10 or 3.08,many were posi and they're about as close to a bolt-in as you'll get. Speed | | | | Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 549 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 549 | I "Fail" to see how your post has added anything to the subject of rearends. Like I told you in response to your PM earlier; "I appreciate your concern over my stones. I like the bolt and have had the good fortune to meet a lot of the guys and gals on it. Maybe we'll do the same someday. In my opinion, this forum is supposed to be about helping and discussing old trucks. However, all too often the old hands tend to [censored] new people out for asking something that has been asked before or scold them for not searching. They seem to forget that the new guy might not have been around long enough to have read the same question 257 times. You started your post by calling the dude lazy. Then, you gave a bit of info – most of which didn’t really answer his question, followed by what read like a slight [censored] chewing for not using the search feature – a search feature that is poor at best. All of that seemed to be pretty rude to me. Maybe we’re both “honest” or we’re both rude. Take it how you see fit."
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