Thanks Joe, I did try the shortys from sanderson (BB4) but passenger side dump was (as you stated) right in front of the starter. The guy that had the engine before me had the same problem with his headers, and yes, it was tough starting when hot. I'm going to try the long tube (C7) headers and see how they work. The C6 is supposedly made for the C10, but I was told that it will only fit with the engine in the rear mounts. I'm trying to move the engine to the front mounts to give me more firewall clearance. If the measurements are true on the C7, I should be able to use the front mounts and still have clearance past the a-arm bushings, etc. I'll know more when I get the headers early next week.