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So I removed the stuck 216 from my '50 3/4 ton today to replace it with a 235. Problem is, I can't seem to figure out how to slide the circular part of the torque tube back. I unbolted everything, jacked the tranny up a little and slid the engine forward and out. Tranny is sitting there partially resting on the crossmember. This truck has the half TT, half open driveshaft with the bearing where they meet. I'm thinking that if I unbolt the bracket that this bearing is in, it should slide the circular ball like part of the TT back so I can undo the little u-joint and drop the tranny. Correct?
OR, after I put the bellhousing, flywheel, pressure plate, and clutch on the 235, would it be possible to slide the engine back in the way it came out? What do you guys do?

Thanks
Colin

(I did a search and didn't find anything on what to do with that center bearing)

Hy Colin, in theory you should be able to put the 235 in just the opposite of the way you removed the 216 the line up will be VERY tricky without two people though, hope that helps.

Colin,

As 3B said, you should be able to "stab" that engine back on to the transmission.

It is alot easier with one person up top moving things up, down, and side-to-side, while the second person is below aligning the splines.

When I replaced my 216, we did it in this manner. I got lucky, and hit it on the first try.

The only problem I encountered was the alignment of the motor/tranny mounts. Once in place, I had to use a "come-along" to pull the engine forward so I could align the mounting holes.

Good Luck with your project.

Thank you very much guys. I wasn't sure if that was a plausible way of doing things.
I'll give it a shot after I replace a few seals and give it a little paint.
Thanks again.

Colin

Colin,

I've dropped my tranny several times on my 3/4 ton. I think it will be much, much easier for you to drop the tranny and then install the engine, rather than try to "stab" the engine onto the tranny! Just drop the open part of the driveshaft by taking the u-bolts off the u-joints (9/16" open-end wrench, should take about 5 minutes). Then drop the TT by unbolting the cover flange from the back of the tranny (4 bolts, 1/2" hex) and unbolt the intermediate bearing assembly from the frame cross-member (2 bolts, I think they're 3/4" hex). With the driveshaft out of the way, you're ready to strap your tranny onto a jack and drop it out, nice and easy. Just my 2 cents- feel free to try to stab that 600 pound engine onto the fixed tranny from the engine bay!
Tyler

I would pull the transmission like Tyler said. Get 2 bolts the same size as the mounting bolts and cut them off to use as guide pins in the top holes after removing the top bolts. I used a reciprocating saw with a metal blade. Then remove the bottom 2 mounting bolts and slide the puppy back with your jack underneath. It is heavy. You need to make sure it doesn't roll off the jack. I made a wooden tray with side bars. You can get the cork seal for the front of the shaft from NAPA along with the flange gaskets. There is a proc in the book for checking tightness of the front shaft to the transmission.

Well guys, I finally got the truck in the shop and tried putting the engine in over the weekend.
I must not have enough hands because its not working for me.
I think I am going to drop the tranny.
Using Tyler's procedure above (thanks), it sounds pretty basic. Drop the driveshaft/TT, lower tranny down with jack, place engine in. Lift tranny up again and slide into bellhousing using alignment studs. Bolt up.
Then what order do I put the driveshaft TT in? Bolt TT up, intermediate bearing, then rear ujoints?
Thanks again.

Update: Dropped tranny and got the engine in. Simple. Always going to do it this way now, way easier.
Thanks