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Need help to locate the lower door wind lace seal for a 48 Chevy 1/2 ton pu.
Most of the forums chatter and pics deal with a one continuous 360 door seal.
What I removed from my door was a separate seal that is held in place by a metal retainer.
Is the profile the same as the lower cab wind lace seal?
Pics would help.

On my 51, the one that came off was a one piece job. However the replacement had a separate strip for the bottom and it is held on with a metal retainer.

Hi Don,firstly welcome.
You mention both the door seal and the cab windlace.
They are two different things.

The seal fitted to the door is technically 'one piece'and is glued on,and also has a lower metal retaining strip screwed to the bottom of the door.

There is a cab windlace that goes around the door opening,and a lower windlace that's retained by a metal trim screwed to the floor section at the rocker.
Therefor, I would assume this is two peice.

I've got a '48 and just bought the lower windlace from Classic, but they all have it. The lower is held in place with a metal strip on all AD years I believe but the windlace itself is different between the years. Same for 47-49 then it changes from 50-54. They comes in pairs, one for each side.

Thanks Truckernix but yours is a 50 and as briank confirmed the 47-49 are the same and then it changes from 50-54.
Briank,
I resently bought the lower metal windlace retainer for the doors along with what I hope is the rubber seal. The ruber seal that they sent me has the same profile as the cab windlace. If it is the correct profile. What is the Classic part number that you purchase? Is the seal profile the same as the lower cab windlace? I have not been able to find a pic that showes this seal and retainer. can you help?
I do not know a lot about these old trucks but I do know that the 47-49s have different cab and door seals that the 50+.

The door rubber seals are the same for all AD trucks, this is the seal that glues to the door itself. Then you move inward and have the Cab Windlace that is held with the metal strip screwed all the way around the inside of the cab around the door opening(Classic part # 03-105 for black.)Then you have the lower windlace that attaches with metal strip across the bottom(part #03-155 black)profiles are all diff.

I give up.
I'm looking for the seal profile or part number of the lower door lindlace seal for the bottom of the doors. I do not think it is Classic 03-001.
The best that I can find is LMC #30-2335.

check the sketches at Steele Rubber, they supply a lot of vendors, if you don't want to buy from them ask your prefered vendor the brand of rubber they stock, Steele is quality

Bill

briank is correct.

The cab windlace changes within the A-D years.

The door seal is apparently what Donl is looking for? It is the same from 47-61.

Classic Parts 03-011 is the one-piece seal that goes around the entire door (including the bottom).

I am struggling with the same problem on my '51 truck. I got the glue on seal that is supposed to go around the whole door...but what happens at the bottom??? where the retaining strip is....so I use a different seal for the bottom or is it the same seal???

A picture of a finish door could really help

Denny Graham has some good close up shots of his door seal install.
Maybe he'll see this post and share.

Failing that send him a PM.

Here a photo that Denny posted a while ago.
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2395785850098611668qDSomp

Here are photos of one of the bottom sides on my 54
http://1954advance-design.com/Photos/Reassembly/21_54DoorSeal.jpg
http://1954advance-design.com/Photos/Reassembly/20_54DoorSeal2.jpg

The single piece of seal is joined under the middle of the retainer on the bottom (I think- I am not now near my trucks or near a Factory Assembly Manual).

....for what its worth. Some guys have posted they join the rubber door seal "in the middle".... "at the corner" and so on. I agree with Tim if my memory is correct. The seal is ONE piece and joins at the bottom. The metal strip holds it at the bottom.

... prsonally I think I'm gonna "45" my corners. I have put mine around the doors "test fitting" and just can't seem to get the hang of the corners. BUT, it is ONE piece.

As I understand it the CAB windlace that goes around the cab is held on by screws in some years and the later ones, like my 52, the windlace slides around in a track. I might add that this track is available if you happen to have a piece cut out or something.
Donl, let us know how you make out. Does all this help you??

Ha Rolling Dices, I looked at a 51 truck last week and the lower door seal, the one that is held on by the metal retainer, is a different profile than the glue on that was on the rest of the door. The seal on this old truck was the original rubber for sure.
As said previously the 47-49s have different cab and door seals that the 50+.
I agree, a picture of a finish door could really help. But your lower door windlace rubber seal, the one secured by the metal reainer, will be different from mine.

Thanks for the Denny Graham door pic and the tcledeman pics of his 54 door seals.
The rubber profiles that I see in these pics are not even close to the old rubber seal that I removed from my 48. It was a separate pc and different from the rubber what was on the rest of the door.
And, as said previously the 47-49s have different cab and door seals that the 50+.
I found that LMC Truck sells a Lower Door Seal, part #30-2335, that is for Chevy GMC 47-49. It is on page 12 as Item 19. The rubber seal for years 50-55 is a different part number.

Donl,

The conversation above is a little confusing.

1. The door seal is a continuous piece (a foam rubber seal) that is glued to the perimeter of the door and has a metal "cover" at the bottom of the door (on the door). This seal is the same from 1947 through 1961. If you had two pieces glued to the door and they did not have the same cross-sectional profile, they were not original-style seals.

2. The cab windlace set are two pieces of rubber that are attached to the cab. One piece of rubber is attached the cab floor and covered with a metal strip. The other long piece of rubber is different depending on your year (and depending on whether you have screwed-onto-the-cab metal retainers or if you have a broken channel around the cab door opening into which you slide the longer piece of rubber windlace. The two pieces in each door windlace set have different cross-sectional profiles.

Thank you everyone...the photos really help. I guess I was over thinking everything.
I got both the foam rubber for around the door and the windlace from Jim Carter's...A bit more expensive than other vendors but I the quality of his parts are good.

For some reason I was way over thinking that whole retaining strip at the bottom of the door...it just kind holds the rubber and keeps the seam cover.

Thank you everyone.