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#6207 08/08/2003 5:21 PM
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I happened to pass a 1943 GMC twin-axle AWD truck up on US12 in Idaho. Stopped to look; it has an interesting driveline setup.

In 2WD mode, the driveshaft drives the readmost of the two rear axles. This driveshaft is along the centrline of the vehicle.

In 4WD, the transfer case drives the front axle and the forward rear axle, via two driveshafts that are offset to the passenger side.

So it looks like 2WD mode is just the rear axle, and 4WD mode is all 3 axles.

The rearmost axle looks fairly normal. The front axle and the other rear axle are different; the left and right axle tubes are one piece with a sort of half-dish. Bolted together, the two halves contain a ring and pinion. It's not clear if there's enough room in there for a differential. Maybe n AWD mode they figure it's better to be a spool hub.

Anyone ever see a setup like this?

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They might be Timken axles, those had the bolt together configuration. They were used on early Willys pickup trucks and are expensive to rebuild.


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George, they are actually six wheel drive trucks, not four wheel. That's how the war era trucks (duece and a halfs) were all 6WD setups.

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George

That system was used on GM trucks until about 1956, when they went to a single driveshaft for the rear axles.

Before the days of diesel, truckers used to pull 35 foot grain trailers with the 235 engines. My dad's dealership used to make what we called double troubles. They'd put a Oldsmobile Rocket V8 behind the cab with a Hydramatic transmission driving a second axle and when they got to a hill, they'd start the engine to pull the hill.

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Did the truck look like this one?
[img]http://photo.starblvd.net/~Mechainiacsphotos/1-1-5.jpg?i=1055480191[/img]
You can just make out the rear diff in this pic
[img]http://photo.starblvd.net/~Mechainiacsphotos/1-1-2.jpg?i=1060559631[/img]


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I have a '41 GMC military truck out in the woods. It is missing 2 axles but the rest of the drivetrain is there. I always called it 10 wheel drive. The cab appears to be the same as a '41-'46 civilian model with the exception of the windshield doesn't crank out. You push it out by hand and lock it down with thumbscrews. The front sheet metal is similar to the truck Luke posted but the cab is not.


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Old military w/civilian cab
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[img]http://photo.starblvd.net/~Mechainiacsphotos/3-5-4.jpg?i=1063031164&pw=*20F33F355515[/img]
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How about this set-up on the driveline
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[img]http://photo.starblvd.net/~Mechainiacsphotos/3-5-5.jpg?i=1063068239&pw=*3FE03F35587C[/img]


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Yeah, the truck I saw looks just like the ones in Mechaniac's photos - including the axle in the back. The one I passed is for sale if anyone cares - I could drive by and get the number. It *appears* it might be a runner, but I have no idea. And no, this is not a for-sale post, since I am not selling it. 8-)

Thanks for the replies - it's an interesting vehicle and driveline, to say the least. The extra-V8 idea is intriguing, and as cheap as 350/350s are, worth doing IMHO. ;-)

George


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