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| | Forums66 Topics126,778 Posts1,039,288 Members48,100 | Most Online2,175 Jul 21st, 2025 | | | Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 643 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 643 | Just bought an alternator(1wire hookup) to "up-grade"from generator in 58 gmc270 6cyl.NO amp meter in truck.Do I just run a wire to battery&ground the alternator?What do I do with "old"gen wires?cap-off?What about regulator?Any mods there??
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Danny 1958 GMC stepside GMC 302 six cylinder 3 speed OD trans
| | | | Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 Riding in the Passing Lane | Riding in the Passing Lane Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 | Yes. Run a 10 gauge wire to the post on the starter or a junction block. Use a piece of fuseable link in the circuit. you don't need the rest of the wires or reg. for this setup. They say money can't buy happiness. It can buy old Chevy trucks though. Same thing. 1972 Chevy c10 Cheyenne SuperIn the Gallery Forum | | | | Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 643 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 643 | how would it charge the battery if i run a wire from alt to starter post?guess it backfeeds?wouldnt this "burnup"the starter?what about wires that went to gen?tape up out of the way?fused link for?
Clear as mud | | | | Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 643 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 643 | fused link should be rated at what size between alt&starter post?Do I need to unhook all wires going to regulator?Should I remove regulator also?how would I check for correct charging? | | | | Joined: May 2009 Posts: 45 Apprentice | Apprentice Joined: May 2009 Posts: 45 |
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| | | | Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 643 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 643 | Ground the alternator. run a 10wire to starter post.fuse size?Thats it?How would I check it?It should work just fine?just want to be sure- CLEAR as mud to me now- | | | | Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 Riding in the Passing Lane | Riding in the Passing Lane Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 | The alt. is naturally grounded when it is securly mounted. Make sure you have ground wires from the engine to the frame & frame to the body. Put a 2-3 in piece of fusible link wire between the battery connection & the 10 gauge wire going to the alt. You can buy fusible link made up with connectors on it. The diods in the alt. prevent curent from running back to it. The fuseable link will burn out if there is a short in the wire or a diode, or if you hook booster cables up backwards. You can check it with a voltmeter across the battery. It should go up to about 14 volts. On a one wire alt. you have to accelerate a little when you first start up to get it started. They say money can't buy happiness. It can buy old Chevy trucks though. Same thing. 1972 Chevy c10 Cheyenne SuperIn the Gallery Forum | | | | Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 643 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 643 | Oh well grounded alt to frame.just was going to put an inline fuse-30amp.Is that too much?parts house didnt know about fusible link
| | | | Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 Riding in the Passing Lane | Riding in the Passing Lane Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 | In line fuse is no good. The alt. puts out about 65 amps. The fuse will blow very soon. I can't imagine a parts man not supplying a fuseable link. Have him look in the electrical wire catalog. They say money can't buy happiness. It can buy old Chevy trucks though. Same thing. 1972 Chevy c10 Cheyenne SuperIn the Gallery Forum | | | | Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 643 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 643 | okay will go track one down
| | | | Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 643 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 643 | bought a 14gauge fusible link.Stated to use 2sizes smaller to protect set up.Not sure how 14gauge wire would hold better than a 30amp fuse?
Danny 1958 GMC stepside GMC 302 six cylinder 3 speed OD trans
| | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,674 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,674 | What's the amp capacity of your alternator? If it's over 65 amps or so, the 14 gauge fusible link probably won't carry the charge current immediately after starting. I've seen alternators go to their full rated output for a few seconds after a heavy cranking load, 100 amps or more at times. The only function of a fuse, or a fusible link is to protect the wiring in case of a short, and prevent the wires from catching fire. I'd suggest a 10 or 12 gauge fuse link, and 8 or 10 gauge wire from the alternator to the battery cable at the starter, or even all the way back to the battery positive post. Put the fuse link as close to the battery as possible to protect as much of the wiring harness as you can. Be sure the fuse link/wire harness connection is a very low-resistance one, soldered if possible on both ends. You don't want any heat to develop at the fuse link hookup or it will melt the wire. Jerry
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| | | | Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 643 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 643 | 63amp alternator.running #10wire to starter post.put #14fusible link in asdirected."use fusible link 2 sizes smaller than the wire used " Nothing extra added to truck.just charging battery.but will ugrade headlights. | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,674 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,674 | "use fusible link 2 sizes smaller than the wire used " Ignore that advice. It's wrong. Either double up on the #14, or go to at least a #12. You'll burn out the #14 fuse link if tthe alternator ever goes to full output trying to recharge a very low battery. The battery, not the voltage regulator determines the maximum charge rate until the alternator stator reaches its current limit. Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
| | | | Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 643 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 643 | okay will change to 12gauge fusible link.had to order online;this one horse town doesnt have anything higher than 14gauge fusible links
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Danny 1958 GMC stepside GMC 302 six cylinder 3 speed OD trans
| | | | Joined: May 2008 Posts: 40 Apprentice | Apprentice Joined: May 2008 Posts: 40 | In ordinary use an alternator will not put out full current at idle unless the pulley size is very small, most are rated for 5,000 - 8,000rpm full output depending on the stator windings. One wire alternators generaly have high voltage low amp Wye wound stators to help them self energise. You likely would have been safe with the 14ga wire, worst case it would just fail. | | | | Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 643 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 643 | 14gauge is hookedup.No problems as of today.drove several times with lites&heater both on.No problems.Figure error on the safe side by putting 12gauge fusible link | | | | Joined: May 2008 Posts: 40 Apprentice | Apprentice Joined: May 2008 Posts: 40 | btw, I was just in our Blue Streak wire and cable book today and it stated 4 sizes smaller for fuseable links. I had thought 2 sizes smaller would be acceptable though... | | | | Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 643 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 643 | I read at several places about 2 sizes smaller.using 10gauge with 14gauge fusible. | | | | Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 643 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 643 | Truck would not start tonight.Think I have a three wire set up.One wire runs to battery.2nd wire goes to terminal on back marked batt.THIRD wire is to go to an "indicator lamp"which my truck does NOT have.Should I run a hot from the ignition switch?
Danny 1958 GMC stepside GMC 302 six cylinder 3 speed OD trans
| | | | Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,440 Extreme Gabster | Extreme Gabster Joined: May 2001 Posts: 7,440 | If you want a lamp run a wire from ign to the lamp. Run the ground to the alternator terminal. Lamps do come in handy. If you sling a belt a light comes on before you overheat the engine. | | | | Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 643 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 643 | think i will tap onto the wire coming from the ignition going to the starter. | | |
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