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#53563 12/15/2005 4:47 AM | Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 218 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 218 | What kind of coating do you guys use when restoring your factory exhaust manifold? | | |
#53564 12/15/2005 4:57 AM | Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 445 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 445 | check out Eastwood.com for paint
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#53565 12/15/2005 7:35 AM | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 990 Member | Member Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 990 | You can get duplicolor high heat black, or orange (like the chevy color) and do it right out of the cans. its a ceramic and looks a bit odd when you spray it on, but dries nicely. Plus their cans have a fan spray and you can lay it on almost as good as a gun. | | |
#53566 12/15/2005 8:28 AM | Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,029 Member | Member Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,029 | The engines were originally painted with the manifolds in place, so whatever paint was used on the engine was used on the exhaust manifold and of course it burned off quickly. I would say that a true restoration would have no paint on the manifold if driven. | | |
#53567 12/15/2005 1:13 PM | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 94 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 94 | I used the Eastwood factory gray brush on paint for the exhaust on my '31 Olds. That was three years ago an it still looks new. Sandblast the manifold, paint it, put it on the engine, and run the engine to cure the paint. I am also AACA and nearly all the local members use Eastwood exhaust paints. | | |
#53568 12/15/2005 2:59 PM | Anonymous Unregistered | Anonymous Unregistered | The duplicolor product says it is good to 1200 degrees but I have never had good luck with it. I have found the VHT product in "nu cast grey" to be pretty good and you can get it through your local parts house in a rattle can. Surface prepration though is a key step in ensuring your new finish lasts longer than one road trip. | | |
#53569 12/15/2005 10:40 PM | Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 Riding in the Passing Lane | Riding in the Passing Lane Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 | Ive used the eastwood manifold paint 1500 degrees. I just cleaned em & blasted em with air & it has held up real good. They say money can't buy happiness. It can buy old Chevy trucks though. Same thing. 1972 Chevy c10 Cheyenne SuperIn the Gallery Forum | | |
#53570 12/15/2005 11:10 PM | Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 2,031 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 2,031 | duplicolor high heat silver @ 1200 degrees I have not heated /fired the 292 up yet... houston do we have a problem. If so I'll change it asap. The hoods off the front clip is off.
Jim & Caroline The highway is for gamblers, better use your good sense." Gooday-that's my 1¢ answer due to the lousy economy ~ cause I ain't got - no . mo . doe Every Shaver | Now Can Snore | Six More Minutes | Than Before ... | Half A Pound for Half a Dollar | Spread On Thin | Above the Collar || BURMA-SHAVE
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#53571 12/16/2005 1:46 AM | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 975 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 975 | Yes...I am cheap...Ace Hardware's high temp paint in a pint..black for the exhaust and silver for the intake. It works well.
For those on a budget.... | | |
#53572 12/16/2005 3:04 PM | Joined: May 2004 Posts: 351 Wrench Fetcher | Wrench Fetcher Joined: May 2004 Posts: 351 | Any thoughts on the powder coat process for the exhaust manifiold? It's real expensive: @ $150. The PC shop really toots its own horn on the product. What do you think? I have virgin Fentons and i'm close to bolting them on. | | |
#53573 12/16/2005 3:25 PM | Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 218 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 218 | I think powder coating is a great option. I would like to powder coat the intake if I coud get a color match to the block. I don't think there are any local powder coaters in my area, making it expensive if parts have to be sent off. | | |
#53574 12/16/2005 3:51 PM | Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 49 Junior Member | Junior Member Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 49 | Powder coating the exhaust?????? Im no expert, but I think the heat would burn off powdercoat. Ceramics seem like the way to go.
Just my 2 cents. | | |
#53575 12/16/2005 11:03 PM | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 345 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 345 | Tailgating here, but what do you do for stock intake manifolds? Do these just get cleaned up and installed as the dull grey metallic color? | | |
#53576 12/16/2005 11:59 PM | Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 218 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 218 | My stock one was painted the engine color. It had a lot of paint worn off after 40 years, but some is visible. | | |
#53577 12/17/2005 12:20 AM | Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 2,031 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 2,031 | powdercoat will NOT last very long ceramic is the best
Jim & Caroline The highway is for gamblers, better use your good sense." Gooday-that's my 1¢ answer due to the lousy economy ~ cause I ain't got - no . mo . doe Every Shaver | Now Can Snore | Six More Minutes | Than Before ... | Half A Pound for Half a Dollar | Spread On Thin | Above the Collar || BURMA-SHAVE
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#53578 12/17/2005 1:49 AM | Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 613 Member | Member Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 613 | i was told by the local powdercoater that he couldn't powdercoat my headers. | | |
#53579 12/17/2005 2:23 AM | Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 218 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 218 | Thanks guys, I was confused when I said powdercoat. I meant a baked on finish and was generalizing in agreeing with powdercoat. I understand powder coat is only related to 3-400*F. :o
I have looked at Jet Hot Caoat and a couple other ceramics. One fo those companies will do the exterioe of the manifold for $75 and in \out for $100. | | |
#53581 12/17/2005 6:42 AM | Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 218 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 218 | Grigg,
Looks very nice! I'll check them out. | | |
#53582 12/17/2005 2:51 PM | Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 775 Bondo Artiste | Bondo Artiste Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 775 | I had my intake manifold painted with basecoat clearcoat. It has held up fine. I painted my manifold with high temp spray can paint from Eastwood. It only lasted 1300 miles before it started to rust out. I then pulled the manifold and sent it out to Jet Hot. It looks nice and so far has held up very nicely. Before Jet Hot; http://community.webshots.com/photo/157747991/481506259PAqVwn After Jet Hot; http://community.webshots.com/photo/157747991/481507103tNDNFT The bottom line is you get what you pay for.
~ Phillip 1949 GMC Suburban - 10 year project 1952 Pontiac Chieftain Convertible straight 8 hydramatic 1945 GMC half ton truck - Driver 1946 Chevy COE - Might restore one day... 1959 GMC Half ton long bed NAPCO | | |
#53583 12/17/2005 7:24 PM | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 265 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 265 | If you could find a metalizing gun, it gives a good durable finish. The only one I have ever seen was at A & P school. It connects to Oxygen, Acetylene, and the air compressor and pulls in an aluminum rod that is melted and sprayed on like paint. | | |
#53584 12/17/2005 8:32 PM | Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 218 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 218 | A metalizing gun; now that's one I've never heard of. Sounds interesting! | | |
#53585 12/17/2005 9:30 PM | Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,029 Member | Member Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,029 | Aluminum metal spraying of exhaust manifolds was popular in the late fifties and later, but I haven't seen it done recently. | | |
#53586 12/17/2005 9:49 PM | Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 42 Apprentice | Apprentice Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 42 | Performance Coatings gives good results, and they are local to me so that's convenient. I've used their heat-blocking coatings on a turbo hot-side housing, downpipe, etc. on my turbo Miata, and their shiny-finish stuff looks pretty nice on valve covers etc. too. Not cheap though!
So we have one vote in favor of VHT paints and a few negative experiences with paint on exhaust manifolds. I am eventually going to be looking for a "cast iron" look finish for my ram-horn manifolds. I've just finished using some cast-iron-appearing paint my transmission parts, and it looks awesome. For exhaust manifolds, though, is it worth the considerable extra expense to go to a ceramic coating as opposed to VHT paint? (I am not afraid of doing multiple-step surface prep, unlike many hobbyists; the local autobody supply guy sells me a whole lot of cans of pre-cleaner and etch primer.) | | |
#53587 12/17/2005 10:47 PM | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 265 Shop Shark | Shop Shark Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 265 | SixPac-
It's a pretty cool tool. The only drawback is the whine in makes will clear out the shop. It's got to be one of the most annoying tools I have ever heard. The really strange thing about it is it's spraying molten aluminum but you can hold a paper cup and spray it without burning the cup or you hand. Also works with brass. Wish I had one. | | |
#53588 12/18/2005 8:22 PM | Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 175 Member | Member Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 175 | I've had good luck with the Dupli Color rattle cans. But prep is VERY important; no rust and no old paint; otherwise it starts peeling pretty fast. Do a good job on prep and the Duplicolor is fine.
Boo
We don't need no stinking V-8s!!
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