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#49691 08/29/2005 2:10 AM | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 8 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 8 | My 235 came stock with no oil filter. I have heard that the oil filters were worse than no filter at all since they had to pump the oil up into the filter on the intake manifold and took oil away from the rest of the block. I am considering installing one. To me a filter of any kind would be better than none since I know it will keep major particles away from the bearings?
Does anyone know of any studies or have personal experience that says how many miles more can be expected out of the engine with an oil filter vs not having one? Is it worth it to install one? | | |
#49692 08/29/2005 3:26 AM | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,115 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,115 | If your 235 came without an oil filter, the filter that can be fitted is a "bypass" filter. This arrangement allows a small amount of the total flow to bypass the regular engine lubrication loop and go through the filter. It is expelled into the pan. If you were to study one of these filters after a period of use, you would find that it trapped a lot of "stuff". However, it is not a full flow arrangement. | | |
#49693 08/29/2005 3:45 AM | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,868 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,868 | The best arrangement is a combination of both full-flow and bypass filters. In order to flow enough oil to supply an engine's lubrication needs, a filter must do a mediocre job of trapping contaminants. The "micron" size (the holes the oil flows through) of a full-flow filter is small enough to trap chunks of dirt and metal that could score bearings, but the filter allows a lot of dirt to pass through. A bypass filter can have a much finer pore size, and it can do a much better job of filtering. Since the oil passes through the bypass filter slowly, and returns to the oil pan, it can be filtered very well, and contaminants of a much smaller size can be trapped. However, it would be impossible to flow enough oil through this fine media to lubricate the engine. Full-flow filters get the big chunks; bypass filters actually clean up the oil. Combine the two types of filters with a good-quality detergent oil that suspends the microscopic particles too small for either filter to trap, and you have a very clean-running engine. That's how LuberFiner 750 filters on big rigs have done it for years, one full flow, one bypass, and heavy-duty detergent oil.
Unfortunately, a 235 isn't plumbed for full-flow filtration, and can't be adapted easily. A bypass filter is the only game in town. Jerry
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#49694 08/29/2005 4:35 AM | Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 327 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 327 | This Tech Tip was given by Bruce Childs (AKA Phat) quite some time ago. I would suggest you have your engine out for a rebuild first, but it doesn't appear to be terribly complicated.
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#49695 08/29/2005 10:00 PM | Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 Riding in the Passing Lane | | Riding in the Passing Lane Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,597 | The oil is much cleaner with the bypass oil filter. I think it will increase the life of the engine. They also look good on a detailed engine compartment. Make shure you have good hoses & they clear everything. Many engines have been ruined by loosing all the oil from abroken hose. They say money can't buy happiness. It can buy old Chevy trucks though. Same thing. 1972 Chevy c10 Cheyenne SuperIn the Gallery Forum | | |
#49696 08/30/2005 2:22 AM | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 275 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 275 | Not necessary to drill the block. On my '55 I removed the pressure tube off the pump, ran copper tubes via bulkhead connectors thru the pan sides & Aeroquip up to my remote full flow filter mount. You're gonna lose about 5 PSI on the gauge due to filter restriction. Same way we used to do on flathead Fords. Easily done, works good & has passed the test of time. Doug | | |
#49697 12/05/2005 6:25 AM | Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 66 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 66 | So how important is the remote oil filter. Are there alot of you kids runnin out there without this modification??? | | |
#49698 12/05/2005 7:32 AM | Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 12,029 | my 57 didn't have one when I got it - about 50,000 original miles - looked and worked well and I'm near positive it'd never had any major work - at 70,000 still goin fine, but awhile back I put the filter on just because I got one on a truck I parted out many thousands of these ol beasts went over 100,000 w/ just normal good care and no filter, and many hi milers got rebuilt to do it over - how much do you use it, how well do you care for it, how long do you expect to be able to buy gas for it are more important - change oil frequently and don't abuse it and it'll take you to your funeral! Bill | | |
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