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on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | | | | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,186 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,186 | I'm trying to find a socket to remove the axle nut on the rear end of my 1 ton, Big Orange. I really don't want to take a chisel and drive it off. The one I found says it's for the 11,000 to 13,500lb axle. Am I correct assuming this is for the 1 1/2 ton truck? What lb axle does my 1 ton dually have?
Bruce | | | | | Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,961 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,961 | Axle nut sockets are generally sold by socket size, not application. Take a caliper and measure the nut. OTC is a popular supplier of axle nut sockets. | | | | | Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 863 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 863 | | | | | | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,186 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,186 | Kent Moore sold them by application. I've seen them from time to time on ebay, however not for a while now. The tool places I looked at on the web all sell them by axle weight. Since my original post, I found this top one from Matco. I'm thinking this is the one I need.
Bruce | | | | | Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 | Bruce,
While this might not apply to your location, NAPA in my area has a big pegboard dedicated to nothing but axle nut wrenches just about like the one you have linked, and at about the same reasonable prices too.
Stuart | | | | | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,186 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,186 | Well my local NAPA didn't have the socket. However, they could order it for $57! I did find an answer to my original question. My 1 ton has an axle in the 7000-8000lb range. The other socket for the 11000-13500lb must be for the 1 1/2 and 2 ton.
Bruce | | | | | Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: May 2006 Posts: 8,351 | The one you linked from Matco is the correct one, in fact, even the late model GM full float light truck axles use the same 6 pin axle nut. Keep in mind that there are 2 nuts per bearing, and the outer nut does need tobe torqued to sped to lock it correctly. One more thing, if you have an OTC dealer, you may be able to get it for less from them than the tool truck.
Bill Burmeister | | | | | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,186 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,186 | The Matco one is probably an OTC socket anyway. It turns out this socket was used by GM for over 40 years. The part numbers are, OTC 1929 for the 1 ton socket and OTC 1930 for the 1 1/2 and 2 ton socket. I found a guy on ebay that has the 1929 for $38. Unfortunately he wants $10 to ship! Now that I know they are out there, I'll keep looking. Thanks
Bruce | | | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,997 Big Bolt Forum Co-moderator | | Big Bolt Forum Co-moderator Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,997 | I couldn't find one. I ended up making one out of a piece of pipe. it worked, but won't last long, of course it isn't hardened. A day without laughter is a day wasted- Charlie Chaplin When wrestling a grizzly bear, you have to keep at it until the bear gets tired, not when you get tired. 1948 Chevy 2-Ton | | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,749 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,749 | I use a piece of pipe, and weld pieces of square key stock onto the outside of it at the proper locations. It helps to have a nut off the axle to use as a fabrication template. Put pieces of key stock the right size to fit the slots in the nut into position, held in place by a radiator hose clamp, then slip a piece of pipe into the middle and weld or braze them to the pipe. Drill a hole into the other end to accept a slide handle made of 1/2" or bigger round stock. Jerry
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| | | | | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,186 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,186 | Hey Jerry, With the limited amount of time I have and not having a nut off the truck, I think I'll just buy the socket. They still make them, it's just a matter of time before I find one cheap.  Bruce | | | | | Joined: Feb 2000 Posts: 587 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2000 Posts: 587 | My local Flaps Also has a pegboard full of them. They are just a sort of pressed steel and painted, nothing fancy. I've even seen some sizes in China junk tool stores. Measure accross flats and check those stores, not chain stores. They aren't cheap, between $25 and $40 for most I bought. If you just have those cut-outs in nut for the lock washer, there is a special one of those too. I had to order mine. Just got one 3" for my MM tractor axle nut, how's that for large. They have up to 5" I believe, wow!
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| | | | | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,186 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,186 | The socket for the 1 ton is 2 5/8" across. I'm not going to fart around and make one, I need the instant satisfaction and will just buy one. It's a tool I can justify for once!
Bruce | | | | | Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 3 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 3 | I had a similar problem with my 1960 40 series. Snap On had exactly the socket I needed. Measure the indents with a caliper, then chase down a Snap-On truck. The owner should be able to help you. Mine set me back $65.
| | | | | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,186 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,186 | $65 is a little rough for the Snap on name. I found one for $28.
Bruce | | | | | Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 238 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 238 | This is just some more info for those who may need it in the future . O.T.C. - #1929 6 lug for 5200 & 7200lb axles ( socket OD 2 5/8" ) " - #1930 6 lug for 11000 & 13000 axles( socket OD 2 7/8" ) " - #1931 6 lug for 15000 & 17000 axles ( socket OD 3 5/8" ) SnapOn - # ANS1929A 6 lug for 5200 & 7200lb axles Also - Dorman Products - has axle nuts for most trucks . Item # 615-138 is the correct nut for most 50's era Chevy 2 tons @ about $40 each . ED H | | |
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