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on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | | | | Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 161 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 161 | as I said in the topic, I need help. I overheated badly. so bad that the oil almost caught fire. maybe I should have not been towing that fully loaded 12' uhaul going that fast with a loaded truck without a working temp gauge. but a man sometimes does things he should not do.
I took 5 days to build up courage to assess damage. everything I can see looks fine. no oil in the coolant or water in the oil (so no blown head gasket), I only lost 2 quarts of coolant (so no coolant leaks). I decided to start it, to see what would happen. it turns over (so not stuck), it runs (that's good news) but after about 30 seonds it dies. it also doesn't run as smoothly as it used to do. plus there's a little bit of black smoke puffing from the exhaust. so I pulled the spark plugs and they're black and have carbon deposit. 9 days ago they were nice, greyish and clean. so the engine was burning oil when overheating.
now here's the question (I think, maybe I'm on the wrong path): should I just put a fresh set of spark plugs in and burn the cylinders clean, or should I not do that and install new rings (which will be bad, I have never done that, and not the $$ to have it done, and no one to help me except for my dear fellow bolters) help with this is highly and greatly appreciated. thanks!! | | | | | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,377 Ex Hall Monitor | | Ex Hall Monitor Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 6,377 | If you're blowing black smoke you are running rich. The smoke would be blue if oil was the problem. The intake manifold is in intimate contact with the exhaust manifold. You probably cooked something in the carb. Kitting the carb would be my first step.
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| | | | | Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 161 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 161 | oh that would be great! I've done a few carbs, I can actually do that. I hope this is the solution, you'll have saved my day, week and probably month. thanks! | | | | | Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,708 | seetz,
I'm with you. I would install new plugs and change the oil and see what happens. The plugs could be so fouled and coked from the high temps that they are not firing properly or completely. This might show as incomplete combustion in the form of black smoke.
Sticking new plugs in is pretty inexpensive and might just get you out of the woods...try it first.
As Tiny mentioned, be sure to at least look at the carburetor and any hose or wire that might have suffered with the high temperatures. That's my two cents worth.
Stuart | | | | | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,458 Extreme Gabster | | Extreme Gabster Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,458 | Check your compression before you do anything.
If you have low compression, it may be rings, or its more likely that you cooked an exhaust valve if you aren't getting blue smoke. A cooked exhaust valve will result in rough running, low power, and black smoke. You should also check your valve lash before you run it much more, since if the valves get too tight they will quickly burn the seats.
Paint & Body Shop moderator A lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic. | | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 1,624 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: May 2005 Posts: 1,624 | Any and all the above is something you may want to do. But, as Atomarc said, change the oil first. If you ran that hot, you fried the oil and nothing but more bad things can happen if you don't change it.
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| | | | | Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,441 Moderator - The Electrical Bay | | Moderator - The Electrical Bay Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,441 | I might change the oil too...
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| | | | | Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 154 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 154 | Check the fluids. Change to motor oil and make sure the water level is up. Change spark plugs if needed and get it running. Yo may be suprised on the out come. | | | | | Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 2,031 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 2,031 | '''''that fast with a loaded truck without a working temp gauge.'''''
while you're at all the above check into a new water temp gauge or getting yours rebuilt. if my memory is working the gauge must match temps w/ the sender.
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