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#453157 09/17/2008 4:04 AM
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I'm sure somebody has done this one here, and I'm sure someone posted it, too.... However, after a week of looking, I can't find any writeups about it. I have a 350/powerglide in mine, and I'm trying to find out what's involved in the swap to a 700R4. I know I'll need to have the driveshaft shortened, and the trans mount relocated, but if anyone can either link me the old writeup, if it's easy for you to find, or possibly put up some measurements? It's a stepside shortbox, 2wd. Also wondering if I'll have any linkage issues, or kickdown cable adjustment issues, or even if I have to have a professional install the shift linkage to make sure I don't burn it up?
Thanks in advance :P

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I don't have the 700R4 yet, but I'm planning on going with a pre-1991 trans, so I don't have any real electronic issues.

Last edited by Tony's1964; 09/17/2008 4:13 AM.

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'64 Stepside 355, 700R4, 10:1 C/R, TCI Streetfighter, Thumper Cam, Hedman Hedders, starting wiring and bodywork shortly, W.I.P.
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#453207 09/17/2008 2:26 PM
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Thanks.
That's a good writeup for the wiring, and seems to be a good baseline for installation, I just wonder if theres' any specifics to my truck I need to be aware of. I've got a book on the GM transmissions, I think it's an Autozone or O'Reilly's book on everything from the 200R4 to the 700R4, maybe the 4L80E, as well. I've done a few rebuilds of the TH350, so I feel I can handle rebuilding a 700. Hopefully that's going to help me set the trans up so I don't grenade it.
Thanks again, and if there's any other input, I'd love to hear it.
Tony


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'64 Stepside 355, 700R4, 10:1 C/R, TCI Streetfighter, Thumper Cam, Hedman Hedders, starting wiring and bodywork shortly, W.I.P.
'07 Charger 3.5L
'99 Dodge Ram 1500 Ext. Cab 360 4x4 (Sold)
'07 F@#$ Focus ST (Sold)
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I've read that rebuilding a 700r4 is more complicated than the TH350 or 400 ever was and that it really does require special tools. I've not done it myself, but the expert I listen to on transmission issues says its not a backyard operation.


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I have access to a full shop, with the Army Automotive Skills Center (shop for use by Soldiers), and I have a complete manual for disassembly/assembly, as well as modifications to the valve body. It's been a little while since I did a trans, but in practice, they work the same, and have very similar guts. The way the 700 works may be a little different, but close enough for me. I also have ASE mechanic advice/help available if need be, so I feel pretty confident. If it takes me twice, that's what it took for my first TH350, and it's a learning experience :P I like to know what's powering/moving my vehicles. The next step for me after the trans will be the rearend, putting in some sort of a positraction unit, but without doing it like a lincoln locker.


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Then brake

'64 Stepside 355, 700R4, 10:1 C/R, TCI Streetfighter, Thumper Cam, Hedman Hedders, starting wiring and bodywork shortly, W.I.P.
'07 Charger 3.5L
'99 Dodge Ram 1500 Ext. Cab 360 4x4 (Sold)
'07 F@#$ Focus ST (Sold)
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'64 Stepside 355, 700R4, 10:1 C/R, TCI Streetfighter, Thumper Cam, Hedman Hedders, starting wiring and bodywork shortly, W.I.P.
'07 Charger 3.5L
'99 Dodge Ram 1500 Ext. Cab 360 4x4 (Sold)
'07 F@#$ Focus ST (Sold)
Tony's1964 #454122 09/19/2008 7:41 PM
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A 200-4R is a stronger transmission and the same length as a powerglide/TH350 ! You would only have to fab up a tranny mount a little farther back. I have a 700R4 in my '64 already or I would have used a 200-4R.No matter how you go, be sure to set up the TV cable properly or either tranny will die very quickly !!

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Ronin8451 #454232 09/19/2008 11:56 PM
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Thanks, Rick.

If the 200R4 is the same length, does that mean the stock driveshaft will fit? That would save me some cash, and I'm all about that!


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Then brake

'64 Stepside 355, 700R4, 10:1 C/R, TCI Streetfighter, Thumper Cam, Hedman Hedders, starting wiring and bodywork shortly, W.I.P.
'07 Charger 3.5L
'99 Dodge Ram 1500 Ext. Cab 360 4x4 (Sold)
'07 F@#$ Focus ST (Sold)
Tony's1964 #454238 09/20/2008 12:29 AM
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http://bowlertransmissions.com/default.aspx?mpid=34

i thought this link might be helpful. i saw the product in hot rod and thought i had to have one, till i went to the site and saw the price. might have to wait a few years.

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Maybe the price will drop when someone else discovers how to reproduce them. grin


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I agree, Dhughins. It's rather steep, but I just happen to have an extra bit of cash laying around that I was trying to figure out what to use it for. I may not have enough after I build the trans I buy, but if I do, it'll be fairly cheap insurance that I don't grenade it from something so retarded as a line setup. I've been looking around, and the trans might end up with around $800-1k in rebuild parts in it by the time I'm done, so another 300 doesn't seem so bad.


Wide open 'til you see God...



Then brake

'64 Stepside 355, 700R4, 10:1 C/R, TCI Streetfighter, Thumper Cam, Hedman Hedders, starting wiring and bodywork shortly, W.I.P.
'07 Charger 3.5L
'99 Dodge Ram 1500 Ext. Cab 360 4x4 (Sold)
'07 F@#$ Focus ST (Sold)
dhughins #454337 09/20/2008 2:14 PM
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I was just reading some info on the 200, and I think I'm going to stick with my original plan of a 700R4, as it's got a shorter 1st gear, for some better giddyup off the line.


Wide open 'til you see God...



Then brake

'64 Stepside 355, 700R4, 10:1 C/R, TCI Streetfighter, Thumper Cam, Hedman Hedders, starting wiring and bodywork shortly, W.I.P.
'07 Charger 3.5L
'99 Dodge Ram 1500 Ext. Cab 360 4x4 (Sold)
'07 F@#$ Focus ST (Sold)

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