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Well, the 2K Rubberseal aerosol can testing continues. Today it’s the 2K filler primer part number RS-586. I have to say, I am really impressed by these products so far. I posted a while ago reporting the results of the 2K epoxy primer RS-587 finding it totally insoluble to lacquer thinner and urethane reducer. I did a very aggressive rub test and they didn’t even touch that epoxy primer.
This primer didn’t hold up as well to the thinner rub test. But it does take a pretty good rubbing to get a little color on the rag. It still held up darn good. It is an “iso-free” filler primer similar to PPG’s NCP primers and even smells like it when sanded.

The amazing thing was the filling and sanding qualities. I did a repair in polyester putty on a Toyota Camry fender. I finished off the filler in180 grit as I usually do. But I didn’t think that was enough of a challenge for that primer and half of the filler I finished blocking it with nice sharp 80 grit.

I applied it as per the instructions on the can with 5 coats with a flash of 3-5 minutes. Now, it was darn hot at about 90 degrees out so it flashed pretty fast. I added another coat over the area of the filler that was sanded with 80grit. I thought for sure that this little aerosol can wasn’t going to fill that 80 grit at all let alone with only 5 coats knowing how aerosol cans cover like crap.

Well, how about 1 coat made 1 mil! So at the 6 coats I had 6 mils! The one can covered this area with 5-6 coats no problem and I had a lot left so I made another test panel stripped to bare metal and just kept applying coats……13 of them. The can was still spraying good at 5 hours after busting the hardener container in the can. It did have kind of a “chunky” effect near the end. The first coats on the fender, that sucker sprayed like a little touch up gun, very nice with no splattering.

So, on this test panel, how about 15 mils!

I blocked the fender with 320 and then sanded it with 600 and then prepped the fender for a blend. The 6 coats filled those 80 grit scratches no sweat! I blocked and sanded very aggressively without sanding thru!

Coming up next….how about the paint being applied with a “Pre-val” aerosol system and then the RS-588 urethane clear aerosol can! Yep, I am doing this whole job in 2K products and no spray gun or compressor. I’ll report on that later.

Brian

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Hey Brian,
Thanks for the info and for doing a professional test for us. I'd like to know where we can purchase these products. I tried emailing the company and received no response. It looks like maybe they only sell to pro body shops? Any info you have about it though would be greatly appreciated.

http://www.handsontools.com/Pro%20M...5.html?thissku=6095&site=google_base

and, the modern alternative:
http://www.carcareproducts.com.au/product/car_care_products/paint_thickness_gauge

I think they are talking about the primer, not the mil gauge. I had the digital one when I was a paint rep, I loved that darn tool. But I can't justify one for my garage.

Brian

Oops, I'm sorry.

Brian

I didn't explain how these cans work, it is a REAL 2K product! Here is how the can works.

Brian

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So, where is this sold, and for how much?

One of my co-workers "helped" me by spraying this fender today. I was planning on a full on aerosol repair but that will have to come with another fender darn it.

But this is a good test too, he applied regular S-W base over it and then a urethane clear from a gun. He knew I was just testing this primer so he wasn't careful and did pile it on a little thick getting few runs. So this is a good test as to if it would shrink. It was baked at 140 and it shows absolutely ZERO shrinkage. Now remember I "asked" it to fill 80 grit scratches so holding up is pretty impressive.

It has ZERO shrinkage at the edge of the primer as well, these darn aerosol cans are darn impressive.

Brian

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How well it works is pretty pointless if we can't get it anywhere.

I'm sorry guys. I missed that post. This is where you can get it the exact stuff I used. But there are many other distributors of it. http://www.rubber-seal.com/prodview.asp?prodID=2069

Brian

If someone contacts that company and finds out the cost, with shipping charges, please let us know.

Check your local paint store. PPG, R&M and the like all have it.

Brian

As has been mentioned earlier, Eastwood sells another brand of this product, which works exactly the same way as Brian's diagram. You can order on line from Eastwood.com. Search for 2k aerosol primer and it should come up. I bought several cans a couple weeks ago--not cheap, but extremely handy when doing one fender or other small areas.

Yours,

Jim

I talked with the guy who gave me this primer and I think I may have put a fire under him to get his wife on getting his web site up and running. He has TONS of fasteners and adhesives and what not that he could be selling there. Along with these aerosols of course.

Brian