The Stovebolt Site Forums The Parking Lot Panels 'N Burbs 1958 Burb sliding windows=Stabilizer?

Now that the media blasting is done, I'm restoring the sliders with new weatherstrip and glass. The maintenance manual indicates there is a glass stabilizer somewhere on the bottom(?) of the glass. I found 1 piece of channel metal with a roll to it that has thick felt stapled on it. Is this the stabilizer? If so, how does it work, and where does it go?

Did you get the rebuild kit yet? If so, you will see the channel in the kit. Try to see and copy what was in your orig. windows. you have 4 windows to check and see how they are built, If you can't figure it out from the kit, I will check the windows I have for sale on here. they are removed and I should be able to tell you how they are built.

I have the rebuild kits, and all four original windows, but only one has this extra part I described. The manual refers to the stabilizer, but no picture of it. The windows are no problem to rebuild, but I can't figure out where the stabilizer fits, or why it is necessary. I can email a pic if intellectual curiosity is killing anyone.

I also can't figure out why the glass is not straight on the bottom at the rear-end, but has the curved plane. It slides the same straight as curved. Anyone know?

I read the Maintenance Manual and looked at the Assy Manual and my windows. My observations: Stabilizer may be a glued on plastic or metal piece on bottom of slider to make sliding easier. If there is no piece like that in kit, you don't need it. Manual says it is on the slider and on the bottom and is "glued" on. None of my slider glass pieces have a glued on piece at the bottom. The stepped up edge on the bottom of the slider is to facilitate removal(tip up) and give less surface to make sliding easier. It may also enable a tight fit into that acute angled, small radius corner. The felt covered, metal reinforced, corrugated channel is used for the slider glass to slide in(three sides), but only as far as the slider's excursion. Red58 is the real expert and will respond as time permits. Do you have instructions with your kits?

I now understand the reason for the stepped up edge, and will duplicate the glass , since my '58 is all original. There are no instructions with my weatherstrip kits, but I understand how to install them.
I only have one "stabilizer", and it is a short metal channnel with industrial staples holding the felt to the channel. I can always email a photo of it if curiosity is killing anyone, otherwise I'll see if Red58 responds, or just not use it. Maybe I'll put it on ebay as a "very rare" stabilizer?

Thanks for the response.

Mark

I am of the opinion that the piece you speak of as the stabilizer is just a broken off piece of window channel. Does it not look very similar to the channel supplied in the kit? Was it attached to the bottom of the sliding glass? Send pic. if possible. Or if you wish we can wait for red58 and of course there are others who may know but since no one was responding thought I would try to help and keep it at the top but it's not bringing them in? Bartamos.

It is definitely not part of the channel, and I'll pick it up from my glass shop tomorrow and email you a pic. The piece was lying in the channel at the rear bottom, and has some wear where the glass slides thru it.

I appreciate your persistence.

Roger, will wait for pic. When you and I are talking about "channel" we do not mean "frame" as is shown in Manual Sec. 3, fig. 48. The frame is the whole metal piece for both stationary and sliding window. Window "channel" is typically felt covered corrugated metal that fits into the frame and into which the glass fits. "Channel" is supplied in a long piece which you may have to trim to length before installing. this stuff is also used in the windup door window "frame". yes?

well I can't solve the mystery, never seen that stabilizer piece, but according to the shop manual the 'stabilizer' should be glued to the glass, which means it wouldn't be felt - sounds to me like it may have been included to take up slack in the track resulting from the crown of the body side .... which would mean some didn't need it, and being glued to the glass would mean after 50 years it's as likely to have been swept under someones shop bench ... I'd say the piece you have is a piece of cats whisker material [only thing I've ever seen with stapled felt] someone stuck in there to tighten up the glass

Bill

The piece is much more than an industrial stapled piece of felt. I now have some pics of it, but I don't think I can upload to this website. I'll PM both of you, and if you reply with your email address, I can send you the pictures and see what you think.

It's not the frame,it fits in the channel, apparently, since the metal groove is the same size as the glass. If the pics are too big(5 meg), let me know and I'll resize and send again.

I did the sliders on the wife's 58 Burb about 6 months ago. There is a piece of channel that fits on the back edge of the forward piece of glass. It has cats wiskers attached to it to prevent drafts by sealing between the two windows. I did not have any other channel that attached to the glass itself. I took a few pics of the process, I can post them if you think it will help solve your problem.

I have seen the pics of the "stabilizer. It is not a piece of "division bar channel/seal" that you mention. In my opinion. It is about the size and shape of a slider handle but it's not a handle. It's only 2" long. I tried to buy it but he is unreasonable.

Bartamos tried to steal this very rare and valuable part for a mere pittance. I was very careful to copyright the pictures before sending them, to avoid their unauthorized use for unlawful gain. There is no question that I am the only person in the world who has possession of one. I will take offers to license its reproduction, with bartamos having the right of first refusal(A gourmet burger and coke will probably do it)

Thanks to all who participated in the investigation.

I have already scanned it, digitized it and am in the process of reverse engineering it. I will order 1000 and they will be in my new Fall catalog. Burger and coke on it's way.