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#42218 04/24/2003 6:38 PM | Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 66 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 66 | Hello I'm new to your forum, hope to learn alot and have some fun too.
I have a 1950 3100 original 216. I've had it about 6 years and just now am getting to the point of doing something with it. I would start it every couple of weeks the first three years I had it; let it run a little bit then shut her down. Never have had it on the road and licensed. About three years ago, was the last time it ran, until yesterday. I drained the gas tank, put fresh gas in it. Replaced the plugs. Squirted some oil in the cylinders, cranked it over a few times, with the coil wire off. Then put the coil wire on, cranked over but wouldn't fire. Readjusted the points. Cranked her over and she fired up. I let her run about 15 minutes. She was smoking out the exhaust quite a bit, and also, sounded like some one was tapping on the side cover of the engine. Thing is I don't remember seeing it smoke that bad or make much noise all the other times it had run (3 years previous). My question is do you think the smoking and noise are caused because the truck sat so long without running and do you think with more running it will quiet down as the engine gets lubricated or do you think there is some major problem ?
Joe - (Buckeye Bowtie) "Remember it takes about 2850 bolts to built a Chevy Truck and only 1 NUT to scatter them all over the highway"
1950 3100 1971 C-10 1939 Buick Century
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#42219 04/24/2003 7:03 PM | Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,745 Member | | Member Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,745 | Welcome. First take off the valve cover and start it. Make sure there is oil around the rockers. If not you have a clogged passage somewhere. This could maybe be fixed with running an external line. If the oiling is ok then adjust the valves and check for bent or broken push rods.
The smoking might just be from the oil you squirted into the cylinders. Or a stuck ring that might get better when run or soaked in oil.
54 3100 with 235 62 flatbed dump C60 with 261
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#42220 04/24/2003 7:19 PM | Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 687 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 687 | Buckeye: I agree with Tony, also welcome. You squirted oil down into the cylinders that sits on top, spark fires has to burn oil off, takes awhile to get rid of it!! Also sounds like a tappet hammer. Take piece of garden hose stick it to your ear and to valve cover, listen for sound if its loud then start there. Saves time and gasket. popcorn The Truth is Out There | | |
#42221 04/24/2003 8:30 PM | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | You could also have a stuck valves (stem). Check this out when you have the valve cover off as suggested by Tony M. WD-40 at the top of the valve guides might help (in my case, it took several spritzes over several days to loosen up a few valve stems on a working engine that had been resting for 4 years).
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#42222 04/24/2003 9:17 PM | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,458 Extreme Gabster | | Extreme Gabster Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,458 | You can safely run the engine without a valve cover to check for noise and valve problems, it shouldn't spray too much oil around.
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#42223 04/25/2003 12:27 AM | Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,115 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,115 | If it gives a smooth idle, it doesn't have a stuck valve or bent pushrod. If this is not the case, then I would be suspecting something like that. A stuck oil ring assembly is a possibilty on the cause of the smoke. There are a host of cures to try including synthetic oil. | | |
#42224 04/25/2003 5:30 AM | Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,897 Member | | Member Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,897 | Buckeye,, Welcome to the Stovebolt You squirted oil in the cylinders I understand that but did you not expect it to smoke after that Run it for a while and use a little ATF dribble it down the carb throat slowly. it may bog down a little and smoke a lot but the ATF will lube the upper valve stems close to the head of the valve. you will need to rev the engine a little while dribbling the ATF in the carb. let it run 15 to 20 minutes longer to let the smoke clear out.
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#42225 04/25/2003 4:39 PM | Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 66 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 66 | First off: Thanks for all the "Welcomes" Second: Found the noise problem. Took the valve cover off last night (two bent push rods). Replaced the push rods, (runs much quieter). Smoke has subsided, so evidently, it was from the oil that I squirted in the cylinders. Yeah, Yeah, Mechainiac I did expect it to smoke a little after squirting oil in the cylinders, but I still expected to be able to see the neighbors house (which I didn't until last night)  ha ha I do apprecaite everyones help. I'm going to start a couple of new posts, with more questions I have. Hope it don't seem like I'm flooding the airways; Just trying to learn from you guys. Thanks again
Joe - (Buckeye Bowtie) "Remember it takes about 2850 bolts to built a Chevy Truck and only 1 NUT to scatter them all over the highway"
1950 3100 1971 C-10 1939 Buick Century
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