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I'm looking at buying a 1955 Chevy 1500 (canadian) 2 ton? Dumptruck
and am looking for aprox Weight so I have an idea if I can tow it on my tandem axle trailer rated at 12000# (2000# is the weight of the trailer) with my 1 ton Non Dually Dodge Cummins. I want to be safe. Thanks 1958GMCNut

the 1/2T is 1300, 3/4T is 1400 - wouldn't 1500 be the 1T?
a 2nd series 1T GVW is 8800 w/ duals [19.5s] - the 1.5T [w/ 19.5 duals] is 12,000 GVW, the 2T [w/ 22.5 duals] is 16,000 GVW

so I'd think you'd be fine if it's 1T, iffy above that with the dump body on

Bill

isn't GVW the combined weight of the Truck AND the load????

Is this the same as a 5100 LCF??? If so, just the cab and chassis will weigh 5,000 pounds. If it's the same as a 6100 (conventional cab) the cab and chassis will weigh about 5,300 pounds.

I'm not sure what the dump body will weigh, but think it would be in the 2,000 to 3,000 range. So the truck should ride on your 12,000# trailer just fine.

Mike B

I agree with Mike, it should work.

Grigg

I remembered I have a list of CDN model numbers:
1531 3/4-1t chassis FFcowl 131.5" wb
1532 3/4-1t chassis/cowl
1533 3/4-1t pu
1535 3/4-1t panel
1541 1.5t chassis FFcowl 157" wb
1542 1.5t chassis/cowl
1543 1.5t chassis/cab
so it's a 3800 or 4000 series .... if a 4100 has a GVW of 12,000 less the 3-4000 payload, plus the dump box, I'd think it'd be pretty close to the 10,000 capacity of the trailer

and the RCMP/DMV folks are pretty picky here sometimes, be safe

Bill

phoned the owner, 11,000 # GVW, on 750-20" wheels.....

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/car/642885020.html

here's the truck....if ya wanna peek at it....

I think that would be a 1 1/2 ton.GVW is max weight truck and load combined.Empty I bet that truck weighs around 7000lbs.

our 53 coe flat deck with pto & ram weighs 7000 lbs un ladden weight.
sweet looking dump truck dave

GVW: Gross Vehicle Weight (Exactly that, the vehicle weight)
GVWR: Gtoss vehicle Weight Rating (how much the total weight of vehicle AND Load can be)
CGVWR (or GCVWR): Combined Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (total weight rating of the truck/tractor PLUS weight rating of trailer)

Just thought I would clarify.
Laterz,
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That truck is the same as my 56 GMC a 1.5 ton it has the small 10 lug 6 1/4" hub piloted bolt pattern 22.5 wheels. The 2 ton will have 6 lug stud piloted wheels with the much bigger 8 3/4" pattern that truck with the dump box should weigh about 8,000 pounds and have a GVW of 14,000 and a GCVW of 22,000.
I also notice that it is a V8 truck should have the a Buick Nail Head in it where is my GMC has a 317 Pontiac.

BTW it could be the little brother of my 56 Chevy dump.

Stats...
10 bolt 7.50 20" Tires
265 cid V8
GVWR 11,000 lbs
GVW 8400 lbs
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/car/642885020.html

It's MINE!!!!

Way cool, Dave. I wish I was there when you pick it up so I could show you how to cross-chain.

Oh it is a 1 ton I would have guessed 1.5 for sure, still look like tubeless wheels to me. Are you sure about the tire size? The GVW and the Chevy 265 V8 due say 1 ton though if it where a 1.5 ton the stock wheels would be 22.5" and the tires should be 8.00 22.5s. The 8.00 22.5 would need to be changed to 9.00 22.5s as the 8.00 haven’t been made for many years. My father with 30+ years in the truck tire business says that the 8.00 22.5s that are on my 56 GMC are the only ones he has ever seen. Being a Canadian truck not sure if they used the Buick motor in the big trucks after 55 or not.

It is a 1 1/2 ton...
all 6 tires are 7.50 20" 3 piece tubes....

I think that someone changed the wheels and tires, from 56 to 58 all Chevy and GMC trucks went to tubeless but they were not well received buy the skeptical consumers. Chevy and GMC were truly ahead of their time but old truckers and farmers can be rather hard headed and reluctant to change LOL. In 59 the tubeless tires were standard and the tube type became an option then in 60 tube type was again the standard and the tubeless became the option till the late 70s early 80s.
Good luck with your new truck it looks to be in much better shape than my 56 GMC and I have been asking $1000 for it so I think you did well.
Is that 11,000 pound GVW metric? My GMC is 14,000 and I have a heavy duty 71 Chevy 1 ton with a 12,000 pound GVW.

Nope, It's off the door pillar plate...its pounds...
Funny enough the insurance docs say 20,000 #....
But that's not what the scale looks at....

HH,

The 322 Buick engine was only available in the 10,000 series (2-1/2 ton) trucks in 56 and 57. No other engine was available in these truck with the only option being the 4-barrel carb. It's shown on paper as also being available in 58, but I've never seen a '58 with the 322. I believe Chevrolet covered their bases by listing both the 322 and 348 for 1958 just incase there was a problem with the ALL NEW 348 production.

Tube type tires seem to be way more common than the "standard" tubeless tires (at least around here). I've owned many 56 & 57 1-1/2 and 2 ton trucks and have only had one with tubeless tires the rest all had the 2-piece 20's. I can't believe these trucks were all refitted by the owner/dealer, they must have come from the factory this way. That said, I don't have any info showing tube type tires as being optional.

Mike B

If It has 10 lug wheels I would expect it is more than a nominal 1 ton rated truck, 1.5 ton is my guess.

Grigg

Congratulations, In the Canadian manual it rates the GVW on a 1 1/2 ton as 9500 to 11000 pounds depending on tire size.
GVW defined by the manual"Gross Vehicle Weight which includes chassis, body, cab, PAYLOAD, fuel, water, oil, and driver.
If you live in BC our insurance companys recognize GVW as total combined weight of vehicle and payload, Net wieght as actual vehicle weight.Just thought I would clear that up!

darn heavy though....

Just because of this discussion, I took my firetruck to the scales this morning. The results are: 9,640 lbs

I was surprised it weighs that much but that is the answer with a full tank of gasoline and no water in the firepump tank.

Man VF that seems light with all the equipment on a fire truck my 64 Big Ugly as I call her weighs the same with a dumping grain box.

I was surprised it weighed that much. I've pushed it by hand into the parking garage when it wasn't running and frankly it didn't seem that hard to push. I'm as surprised as anyone but that is what the digital scale showed when I got out to look at it. FYI: I do not have the tank water or the cotton firehose onboard because I figured it would cut my miles per gallon rate.