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#378717 02/22/2008 4:43 PM
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i have a 51 235 that was bought as a quick fixer just to make my 46 truck go untill i found my motor. being a newbie i was told it was a press oiler. obv not. and now i have an oppor for the motor i was looking for.

the 235 seems in very good cond both top and bottom are very clean. pistons are stuck from moisture. i have them soaking now. if i decide to play w/ this motor and want to do the rings am i correct to assume that once i release the rods from the crank the babbitting is shot and NOT reusable!! i do not want to machine the crank and get that far into a motor i am not using.

so...if the babbitting is reusable, or i get it to turn the way it is, maybe i play withit, unless somebody wants or needs it say $250 the way it is and pick up in trevose pa. thnaks for the help


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Why not drop the motor in and see how it runs? It _may_ not need rings, and if you're only gonna run it for awhile it might be OK.

I've never heard that you can't unbolt babbits and the rebolt them if they are OK. Be sure not to mix up any parts, of course.

I've heard there are pressure-feed conversion kits; don't have any experience tho.

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There is nothing wrong with re-using babbited connecting rods if the babbit is in good shape- no flaking, chipping, pitting or cracking. There may be shims between the cap and rod end, so watch for those when you remove the cap. Watch where shims are located, because there may be different thicknesses of shims on each side, or no shims on one side, or no shims at all. The shim stack may also be different on each rod. They are used to adjust the bearing clearance during assembly. If you disassemble this engine:

1. Note the location of rod shims, and keep the shims with the original location on the rod. If you don't do that, you will have to readjust each rod individually- not a major undertaking, but time consuming, even when you know how to do it.

2. Main bearings may also have shims on the caps. Pay attention to those, also.

3. For re-assembly-- the numbers on the connecting rods go toward the cam shaft.

4. The open part of the oil dipper goes toward the camshaft- and toward the pipe in the oil pan. In the past, the dippers were often put on backwards, which resulted in considerably shortened connecting rod life.

It comes to mind that there was a common practice for rod shims if only one side was shimmed, or if there was a thicker stack on one side. I don't remember with any certainty, but I think the shims, or the thicker stack, went on the numbered side of the rod in that situation.

These points assume you will not be replacing any bearings, but re-assembling the engine as it was- maybe with new rings. Adjustments are in order if you replace any bearings.

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thanks for the info. if my new engne is going to be a while i may just see what shes got


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Those low pressure motors can bring a lot of years of good service. I kept mine and I am happy with it.


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