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Just like the title states. I will soon be selling front cross-members for the AD 1/2 ton trucks (and possibly the 3/4) for mounting GM Metric A-arms and components. (GM Metric include the '78-'88 El Camino, Malibu, Cutlass, Monte Carlo, S-10, Camaro etc. These chassis are also used as the basis for many racing applications, so tubular upper and lower A-arms large brakes, etc. are available)

Background: I am building a Resto-Mod and seriously investigated the AD engineering kit for an S-10. Being an engineer, I really didn't like the wheel spacers needed in the front to get the track width correct for the AD. I also have considered the Mustang 2 IFS, however I believe keeping the make throughout the project. GM on GM, FoMoCo on FoMoCo, Mopar on Mopar, etc. Being an enterprising individual, I believe that there may be a market for such product.

This leads me to offering my designed cross member to other 'bolters. This will be jig welded, machine cut pieces.

These will first be available as weld-in, followed shortly (relative) by bolt-in. Estimated availability is early 2008

Price is estimated in the $400 range for an unpainted Weld-In cross member (I have to get final costing from the vendor). Stock components from a Donor will work, as well as many aftermarket components. (I can also look into sourcing whole kits)

Once available, I will update pricing, shipping, etc.

Please contact me with any interest

Scott
danforths@lsol.net
scott.l.danforth@charter.net

Scott,

Sent you an email. I'm interested.

Replied back. You are on the list

I am interested in a weld in model email me at joromero4@msn.com

Hi please send me all the information about this, I sure can use something like this

Ranchojuan.

Will send photo's etc. of the cross member as well as installation drawings when completed with my Prototype.

Scott

I'm interested in hearing more and I sent you an e-mail as well. Will this use a steering box or R&P?

Scott
I'm interested, Sent you an email
Todd

I will know more within a week. If I can keep a steering box as an option I will. This may be done with different boxing plates (optional) I will personally be using a Rack & Pinion.

Scott

Intrested in pictures.

Will do

Scott, please add me to the list of interested folks. Thanks!

Just a quick update - spent a little time actually designing stuff and modeling the frame, cross-member defining points, etc. Here is a few Screen Shots

The design is preliminary at this point. I need to model the spindle, A-Arms, Hubs, etc.

Scott

I am also interested. I sent an email this morning. Thanks.

Francis

Anyone coming to Green Bay area, or know of an un-altered AD in the East Central Wisconsin area that I can gain access to with a tape measure to validate fitment?

Scott

Wish I could help, but I'm all the way across the state in LAX. I do have my truck stripped down to the frame and cab. The next thing to be done will be pulling the engine out. If you are coming this direction, we could try to work something out. Otherwise, I would like any information you can send me on this. Thanks.

Francis

I will check my schedule to see if I have any business that side of the state. If not, when I run to the Twin Cities, I could make a swing south. (Or just give you a sketch with the dimensions I need) BTW, welcome to the 'bolt.

Thanks for the welcome. If I can help you out, just let me know. I'm just looking for an affordable way to upgrade my truck to IFS and don't mind doing development work. If you have any information of pictures already in process, I would love to see it. Thanks for the help.

Pictures of the prototype will be a few weeks out as the upcoming holiday season is cutting into my tinkerin time. I am working on the designs now and will have the first unit cut sometime early January.

Can someone provide the height of the frame to ground on both a stock 1/2 ton and 3/4 ton? I want to get the ride heights correct for those who want stock ride heights as well as a drop.

Scott

WOULD LIKE TO BE ADDED TO YOUR LIST

I would like to be added to your list.
Thanks, John

Just a quick update.... Been spending my time on a few of the other vehicles all my cars appear to have a major issue. Should be back to the front X-member no later than next week.

I would like to be added to your list.

If you still need measurements I have a stock 3/4 ton. Just let me know.

Jim

Please add me to the list, very interested in the IFS, like the idea of using all GM parts!! Let me know if you still need the front end ride height measurements, I have a stock front end 51 1/2 ton in the garage.
Thanks

Farmer51 and 51 Hotrod, both added to the list, and I will take you up on both offers if needed.

Now that X-mas and new year is gone, business travel is letting up, I should be able to finish the design in the next few days and have the jig made and the prototype tack welded for test fit within a week or so.

Scott

I might possibly be interested as well, depending on what i decide to do with my truck. But if you still need measurements, I'm an hour west of Chicago with a bone stock 54 3100, your welcome to measure it if you are in the area.

Scott could you also add me to your list, I am interested in your design

Onelane - just drove through that area on Tuesday.

bummer, if you're back down this way feel free to let me know. The truck is in storage for the winter in a heated garage in Aurora, IL right off the I-88, 50 miles west of Chicago.

Can I be added to the list as well. I would like to know if it will work for TF's as well 55.2-59

Onelane. I was in Aurora.... at Pentair Water. I get down that way once every quarter or so.

Tim, will do, someone with more knowledge on the similarities and differences between the AD's and TF's will have to chime in on the frame. Otherwise after the first ones are built, I can create a version for the TF's

Scott

It won't work on a TF truck. The frames are different in that the AD's taper in the front of the cab and the TF's are straight 34" front to back. The AD's are very close to the dimensions of a 73-87. If you want to see the problems in making an AD cross member fit a TF go here.
http://www.thehollisterroadcompany.com/C10ifs.html Its the same issues as a 73-87 cross member in a TF.

Thanks Dave.

I am starting work on a 51 short bed and looking to change out the suspension. Please email me with info regarding this cross member. rek1981@comcast.net

I'm in the market for an IFS kit and I'm new to this game.
I've spent most of my time modding and racing imports so please excuse my ignorance. Is this a full kit or just the cross member assembly itself? Again excuse the stupid question but I just want to be sure I understand what your doing here.
Thanks for your time.

I will be offering the cross-member only initially, followed by complete kits with new tubular A-Arms, Steering Rack, etc. Spindles can be found used, or I can supply new drop spindles as well. There may be better sources individually for components, if so, I will point that out to people.

Hope this helps.

Scott

Scott: Workin on an early 55 1/2ton. I like the idea of using GM parts cause; for me, they are easy to get my hands on. My personal E-Mail is joecallahan@tcmax.net I would appreciate being put on your list of prospective customers.

I'm interested in the crossmember.. I'm will e-mail you a lis of question I have in regards

Just wondering how you are coming with this? We are finally thawing out and I'm anxious to get back to work. I'll be making a decision in the near future and wondering if your cross member would be one of my options. Thanks!

Add me to your list, thanks.
for my 52 GMC 1/2 ton panel. I would be using steering box, most likely.