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I noticed in the Swap Meet section that someone is selling a '54 pickup with a "new (not rebuilt) 235." Can you still get a new 235 engine?

My understanding that GM built the last 235 powered vehicles for the 1962 model year. How long after that GM continued to build the engines--I don't know. I've heard reports that new engines were manufactured for export to S. American countries principally Mexico--haven't verified.

You would want to contact the person selling the vehicle in the swapmeet to discuss the engine--my guess is that it would be a rebuilt engine. Gud luk.

Thanks for the info, Buzzin'. I'm not that interested in the truck that's for sale, but was just curious to read about the new engine part of it. He specifically mentioned that it was not a rebuilt engine which got me curious. I wondered if there's a secret stash of them in an old abandoned mine guarded by a handful of trolls who will sell you an engine if you give them the right password. Or something like that.

Could be I guess--I know there was a guy in southern california that bought out all the Porsche 356 industrial engines which had been purchased by NATO during the cold war--supposedly brand new. I understand he gets a pretty penny when he sells one--mostly to movie stars and the like.

I occasionally hear about new GMC 302s and Fjord Model A engines showing up. So, it is possible that a few new Chevy 235 engines might be floating around out there. Of course, with an engine that has been sitting around for 40-50 years, you might want to take it apart and give it a good cleaning. The Futurliner people got a new GMC 302, took it apart, and found it full of metal chips from the original machining process. NOS or not, it wouldn't have lasted long like that!

The new 235 is probably an urban legend. I suppose there may be a N.O.S. 235 somewhere, but I doubt it. I posed a similar question some months ago about "how long did Chevy manufacture new 235s after the 62 model year?" and my post died a quick death on this forum. I personally saw an ad on ebay about a year ago for an AD pickup with a "new" block casting from a foundry in Arkansas. The trail got cold quick when I tried to pursue that, too. It would be cool if there was a stash of new 235s somewhere.

GM sold the 235 to Toyota, for use in the Land Cruiser. But Toyota modified the head and used metric bolts, I would assume. So, yes, a new 235 could exist, but it wouldn't be a GM engine as we know it.

Thanks for the info, guys. I suppose I could email the gal for more info, but I'm not that interested in the truck. It's located in Colorado and sounds like a very nice truck. But like I said, it was the "new 235" that got me to wondering if that was possible. From your messages, it sounds possible, but not plausible.

Harry Pellow , the "maestro of 356" is actually a nice guy and will sell to anyone .

Those new Model 'A' engines all came from Russia in the late 70's and are actually Model 'C' engines and have the _worst_ machining you can imagine , usually need much fixing before they'll run .

A N.O.S. 235 would be a treat to find , I'm not holding my breath .

Nate,
There is no such thing as a Fjord "model C" engine, just the "A" and "B." Some model "B" engines had a large "C" cast on the cylinder head.

On some Model A boards, I have seen reliable reports of a few U.S. made NOS engines appearing here and there. Not many, but a few. The Model A experts also say that the Russian engines aren't that bad.

I'm sure he'll sell those 356 engines to anyone if they can come up with the cash. Can't be cheap.

Welll Nate--

Wasn't saying you had to be a movie star to get a maestro massaged NEW engine...just have the green. Heh heh--here's the site...good reading especially the stories.... Maestro Web Page

By the way the Maestro (Harry Pellow) died on March 25,2003. MIT educated engineer turned porsche mechanic. Sad time in Sambo Se.

GMC , I just _had_ to throw that out there , I know " there ain't no such thing as a Model 'C'!"

It is just a nonmenclature to identify a late engine with fuel pump and fully balanced crankshaft .

Nate, I know what you mean. I guess I have had that drilled into my head on the "A" boards so many times that I just automatically spit it back out.