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#32059 08/16/2004 9:56 PM | Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 10 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 10 | Hi:
I'm considering purchasing a 61 Apache. The owners has a Saginaw four-speed trany with Ptrick Hurst Shifter he claims will work without any further modification with his 283 in-line six. True? | | |
#32060 08/16/2004 10:52 PM | Joined: May 2003 Posts: 328 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: May 2003 Posts: 328 | I guess I have never heard of a 283 inline 6. This is probably a 283 v8. As far as the transmission is concerned, I would wait for some of the experts to chime in.
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#32061 08/16/2004 10:53 PM | Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 42 New Guy | | New Guy Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 42 | The saginaw 4 speed is the sm420, which is nearly indestructable and is what probably came in the truck stock from the factory. I'm not sure about the shifter. The only 283 I know about is a v8 that also was an option in '61. So you may be looking at a pretty stock apache.
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#32062 08/17/2004 7:04 PM | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,458 Extreme Gabster | | Extreme Gabster Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,458 | It sounds like a later Saginaw 4 speed if it has a hurst shifter. These aren't as strong but have good ratios. They will stand up to a 283 just fine though.
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#32063 08/17/2004 8:47 PM | Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 2,773 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jun 2000 Posts: 2,773 | Originally posted by 4ontheFloor:
It sounds like a later Saginaw 4 speed if it has a hurst shifter. These aren't as strong but have good ratios. They will stand up to a 283 just fine though. Correct. And the shifter Patrick sells does work, but the arm needs bending some to clear the bench seat in the AD trucks, not sure about the Apache series. My friend put one in his 52 with a 250 hp 261. As for strength, he has burnt the tires going into 3rd gear. 
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#32064 08/19/2004 12:19 AM | Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 10 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 10 | Thanks. Made a mistake. It's an in-line 6 235 and yes I think it's a later 60's saginaw. Saginaws don't appear to have a sterling reputation for durability from these posts. I also don't want to blow the engine running it on the freeway. With these gear rations and a Rebuilt rearend with Patrick's 355:1 ring & pinion, can I cruise the freeway without worry? Originally posted by 4ontheFloor:
It sounds like a later Saginaw 4 speed if it has a hurst shifter. These aren't as strong but have good ratios. They will stand up to a 283 just fine though. | | |
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