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#28861 10/27/2003 4:25 PM | Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 73 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 73 | I’m rebuilding a 67 283. The engine is on a stand. This weekend I put the crank and new mains in. I used engine assembly lube. I checked the crank with a micrometer and it is std. All the new bearings are also std. After tightening the main caps the crank turns a little stiff. I can turn it by holding the counterweights but it seems a little Snug. I don’t expect it to “spin” free but I’m not sure if a little snug is too snug. Any suggestions or comments would be helpful.
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#28862 10/27/2003 4:57 PM | Joined: May 2000 Posts: 234 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: May 2000 Posts: 234 | It should spin quite smoothly using one hand with the caps tightened down, so you're right there's probably something wrong.
Yes crank is STD and bearings are STD - but did you check it with plastigage anyway? Mistakes have been made before, even if you trust the machinist and the parts this is a sure fire way to find any problems. Cheap insurance, just takes a little extra time.
Second thought: on my Willys Jeep I found the new rear main seal was defective, being about 1/8" too long when compared to the old one. Tightening down the rear cap sinched down the crank and it wouldn't return. Bought a replacement seal and it fit correctly.
-Boyo
'48 Willys CJ-2A / '55.1 Chevy 3600 / '66 Austin-Healey 3000 / '04 Volvo wagon (parenthood!?)
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#28863 10/27/2003 5:01 PM | Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 523 Member | | Member Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 523 | If you don't have a way to measure the brg bores you can start by taking a cap off at a time Start with the thrust cap Turn the crank | | |
#28864 10/27/2003 6:36 PM | Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 962 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 962 | crank should spin freely with no rods/pistons attached. Plastigauge the mains, I assume you should have between .001-.003" journal clearance. Could be tight rear main seal or a cocked thrust main. How did you find a 283 crank with a std journal size anyway? Rule of thumb is that if you can't spin crank with a few fingers on counterweight, its too tight.
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Suck, Squish, Fire and Fumes
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#28865 10/27/2003 7:02 PM | Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 591 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 591 | I don't know about a 283, but on some engines I've rebuilt, the rod end caps are offset. If they are not installed in the proper orientation, the engine "binds" at certain degress of rotation. Just something to check, probably not relevant. | | |
#28866 10/27/2003 11:41 PM | Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,897 Member | | Member Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,897 | One cap at a time until you find the culprit 
There is enough good in the worst of us and enough bad in the best of us that it does not behoove any of us to criticize the rest of us. - - Be yourself. If you are ever lost, It will be much easier to find yourself if you know who you are!
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#28867 10/29/2003 4:55 AM | Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 73 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 73 | Thanks for all the suggestions. I narrowed it down to the second one from the front. The second one had a shinny spot on the edge where the bearing rubbed. I took out each bearing and cleaned under it for good measure. The same with the caps. Re-checked and the same thing, the second one was still tight. I think I'll pick up a new bearing and replace it and see if it was just one bad bearing. Other then trying that I'm kind of stumped.
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#28868 10/29/2003 5:07 AM | Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 523 Member | | Member Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 523 | Please pop out the brg and look at the contact marks left by the previous brg Run your finger along the side of the cap at the bore...... is it rough?
Look at the radii in that main.....are they the same as the others
Torque the cap with the brg in and crank out Now loosen one side and tap the bolt Put a feeler gauge under the cap on the loose side Is it the gap the same as the others?
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#28869 10/29/2003 3:28 PM | Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 962 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 962 | Any chance that #2 main cap has been replaced on the block? A block that needs a line-hone will exhibit strange binding problems, as the crank saddles don't line up due to the different cap(s). Or the crank is out of round or the brng shell is defective.
Get some plastigauge! Its a dollar!
Preaching the Hot Rod Gospel according to the 4-stroke apostles:
Suck, Squish, Fire and Fumes
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