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#24738 05/06/2003 6:26 AM | Joined: May 2003 Posts: 8 Member | | Member Joined: May 2003 Posts: 8 | I HAVE A 235 REBUILT ENG WITH HYDRALIC LIFTERS IV AJUSTED THE SEVERAL TIMES BUT THE ENGINE STILL SHAKES THE WHOLE CAR SHAKES. 1 VALVE THE SCREW IS ALMOST ALL THE WAY DOWN ....WHAT CAN I DO TO FIX | | |
#24739 05/06/2003 6:49 AM | Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,897 Member | | Member Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,897 | Look at your fan on the front of the engine to see if one of the blades is missing - - Welcome to the Stovebolt 
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#24740 05/06/2003 8:42 AM | Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,096 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,096 | If you back all the valve adjusters off ( slowly ) until they are all just lightly ticking , does the engine still shake ? If so it is not the valve adjustment , so wind them down 3/4 turn to the right spot . Next suggestion please guys .............. | | |
#24741 05/06/2003 11:43 AM | Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,897 Member | | Member Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,897 | Is the firing order out of sequence? (Just a thought). Have you done a compression test on it?
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#24742 05/06/2003 2:30 PM | Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 962 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 962 | Adjust valves, then check compression. The compression test tells all. If compression is OK, then check fuel and igniton systems. welcome to ze board. 
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#24743 05/10/2003 12:09 AM | Joined: May 2003 Posts: 90 Member | | Member Joined: May 2003 Posts: 90 | Sounds to me like you have a collapsed lifter or flat cam. If the lifter is collapsed you are trying to make up travel of the lifter by adjusting the rocker all the way down. | | |
#24744 05/14/2003 8:50 AM | Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,897 Member | | Member Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,897 | Hello Frank,, Just wondered what was going on with the shaking 235,,,
There is enough good in the worst of us and enough bad in the best of us that it does not behoove any of us to criticize the rest of us. - - Be yourself. If you are ever lost, It will be much easier to find yourself if you know who you are!
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#24745 05/14/2003 2:06 PM | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 54 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 54 | if it makes you fell better, my 235 shakes at idle also, can't tell you if the motor mounts are ok (they are covered in road dirt and a leaking front main seal)
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#24746 05/15/2003 6:08 AM | Joined: May 2003 Posts: 8 Member | | Member Joined: May 2003 Posts: 8 | THANKS ALL FOR YOUR HELP.. I REPLACED THE BAD LIFTER. BUT IT STILL SHAKES | | |
#24747 05/15/2003 8:00 AM | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,458 Extreme Gabster | | Extreme Gabster Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,458 | Have you put a vacuum gauge to it? 235's should idle pretty smooth. It could be a number of things, like too tight valves, a vacuum leak, poor idle mixture, or ignition trouble.
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#24748 05/16/2003 7:03 PM | Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 176 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 176 | My son's 235 runs pretty rough. Make that: ran pretty rough. It has improved a lot after we changed the carb, points, distributor cap and rotor, plugs and plug wires. I haven't checked out the motor mounts yet but since they're 40 years old I suspect they also need some attention.
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#24749 05/21/2003 2:53 AM | Joined: May 2003 Posts: 90 Member | | Member Joined: May 2003 Posts: 90 | Frank,
I take it the lifter problem you had helped with the adjustment of your rocker? I have read through the posts and nothing has been mentioned about dwell and timing? If you think you have the mechanical side sound, IE lifter adjustment compression all that good stuff. I would start looking at ignition. pull all the plugs, check gap, put a meter to the wires for resistance, check the distributor for worn bushings, dwell and timing. The other thing I have "heard" is the resistor type plugs might have to high of resistance for good spark from the old ignition coils. You also might want to check the voltage going to your coil to see if it is low at idle.
Also check for vaccum leaks, windshield wiper motor? What I do for checking for vacuum leaks is take some carb cleaner while the truck is running and spray around the carb and intake manifold etc.. If the engine smoothes out or rpm changes you might of found the vacuum leak. Be carful of the carb cleaner since it is flammable around your plug wires etc..
Just a list of things to check, and maybe already have done so. Good luck..
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#24750 05/21/2003 2:56 AM | Joined: May 2003 Posts: 90 Member | | Member Joined: May 2003 Posts: 90 | Oh yea, You might want to be carful with the carb cleaner on new paint, It might discolor the nice paint job you put on. Brent | | |
#24751 05/21/2003 8:02 AM | Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,458 Extreme Gabster | | Extreme Gabster Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,458 | An unlit propane torch works the best to save the paint, or WD-40 works too. If you use the torch don't open it too far.
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#24752 05/21/2003 7:58 PM | Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,897 Member | | Member Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,897 | Here is an off-the-wall thought,, are the small wires going to the coil hooked up backwards? (neg side should go to coil)
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#24753 05/22/2003 4:49 AM | Joined: May 2003 Posts: 8 Member | | Member Joined: May 2003 Posts: 8 | THANKS ALL FOR YOUR HELP.......... I CHANGED EVERY POSSIBLE THING AND IT STILL SHAKES COULD IT BE IM RUNNING A 216 DIST,......THE MOTOR IS REBUILD. THE PULLY ON THE HARM BALLENCER IS WABLY. FRANK | | |
#24754 05/22/2003 6:40 AM | Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 523 Member | | Member Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 523 | Is there a chance you have a solid cam with hyd lifers? I had a 235(in a car) that had 10 solids and two hyd....block wasn't a hyd block either ran like crap til we found those | | |
#24755 05/22/2003 6:44 AM | Joined: May 2003 Posts: 8 Member | | Member Joined: May 2003 Posts: 8 | HOW CAN YOU TELL IF ITS A HYD-SOLID CAM. MY BLOCK IS DRILLED WITH OIL PORTS. FRANK | | |
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