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#22508 07/18/2003 5:20 PM | Joined: May 2003 Posts: 9 Junior Member | | Junior Member Joined: May 2003 Posts: 9 | How can I tell for sure? Built 350, just put on 64cc heads so my CR is around 11-1, good power but has a funny sound to it when I give it any gas but not at idle, sort of a flapping slapping sound plus when I get close to pipes and mufflers I hear what sounds like a ping.
I've never experienced dentonation so I'm not familiar with it.
I'm going to mess around with the timing today and see if that helps.
Thanks for any help.
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#22509 07/18/2003 6:05 PM | Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 962 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 962 | If you've got flattop pistons with no reliefs, zero deck height, .039" head gasket and 64 cc chambers, you're at 11:1.
Detonation can sound like the valves are rattling under acceleration. This will ruin your engine quickly. You need to run 93 unleaded, reduce your total timing to 30-34 degrees BTDC, set your base timing to 8 to 10 BTDC. Run a 160 degree thermostat, jet your carb until the plugs turn dark tan, and use a plug that is one heat range colder than stock.
If these tuning tricks don't eliminate the detonation, you'll have to either run 100+ gas or reduce the compression. If you continue to retard the timing trying to eliminate the detonation, you'll kill all the high-end power in the process.
The conventional wisdom I've heard is that a SBC can run 93 octane with a street cam until about 10.2:1 compression. Then you're looking at having to mix the grape juice or av-gas with 93 pump fuel. Parts store octane boost is NOT enough.
Severe preignition or detonation will melt the piston tops, break rings and pound out your rod bearings. Examine your plug insulators after a hard run. Any small blobs of metal stuck to insulator or electrodes are bits of melted piston. Not good.
I've seen 327s where the detonation was severely hurting power, so the owner advanced the timing, thinking the engine needed more spark lead. It flew to bits shortly after.
good luck
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#22510 07/18/2003 6:11 PM | Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 69 Wrench Fetcher | | Wrench Fetcher Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 69 | not high enough octane, overdoing it with compression ratio, too far advanced timing nd hot spots on piston heads or valve heads overheating are causes of this, i think you went overboard with compression, id try retarding timing a litle and more octane or get thicker head gaskets
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