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I want to get a 12 port head for my 261. It seems that alot of you guys have had bad luck getting one. I don't want to get ripped off how can i insure that my money will be used properly. I have seen them at the wayne web site and was going to order from wayne is this a good idea. Please help $4000 is alot of money for anyone. the rest of my hot rod project doesn't cost this much.

DO NOT send money to Wayne, the guy running the joint dropped out of sight a few weeks ago with everyone's money. I learned my lesson the hard way, so now I'm broke and scrounging for cash to rebuild my stock head.

Note the $4000 gets you a bare head. Add $1500 for rocker assy, another $1000+ to get fuel to it, another several thousand to build a fully balanced block which is deserving of a head such as this.

Check out inliners.org. You might find a used head advertised and can post an ad as well. There is at least one other company that was making them new recently; "Duggan", and "Skinner".

if i am going to go all the way through building an engine i want to build a 302, what would it cost to build a 302 with a 12 port head with carbs or webbers.

if you want an engine like that and hafta ask about price, you can't afford it - even if you could find all the pieces, as 50gmc pointed out - how much do you have?

Bill

I want it so bad i would live in my truck just to pay for it period. Nothing in life is more important than hotrods and customs, all trucks of course. I am 23 and dont have a wife or child so noone is going to hold me back.

In my opinion your money would best spent building a mild street 261 or 302. Use the stock head and have a professional port and polish job. Should be more torque and acceleration than you'll ever really need for the street. Plenty of low end and mid range power to show off, do doughnuts, burnouts, etc., and still provide a reliable daily driver. You can certainly get away with building a 225-250 HP 302 (w/cam, small 4 bbl, headers) for less than the price of just the bare 12 port head.

Your common sense (and wallet) will thank you later!

-ftyler

I already have a 261 with 225+ hp. its like a pretty girl and able to make people turn ther head. but a 302 with a 12 port head is like a pack of beutiful women and able to stop traffic.
But ftyler you are right my wallet will thank me later

261 pictures?

gmckustom That 225 HP 261 must be something,all out completely unstreetable 261 drag engines only make 270 HP. Had it on a dyno?

why is a 270 hp engine completly unstreetable? what kind of torq does it have? my dad built the motor and i have no reson not to beilive it has the 225+ hp he said it did. speeking of drags what kind of e.t. does a 270 hp 261 get

I'm not sure but I would guess that answer will depend on who drives it, what rear gears it has, what tranny it has, what tires it has, how much it weighs and the list goes on.

Kels

i knew he was young, full of [censored] and vinegar.

you'll like a hopped up 292 better. trust me
302's are expensive

in fact a nicely built 250 or 261 by a good shop is a HOT street motor.
buy L. Santucci's book first

I know who a car works and that gears can make every thing and the et is dirictly realated to driver ability and weight. what i am asking is what is the best et time any of you have seen. I want to use an early chevy 6 so a 292 want work.

Kustom - maybe you need to be checkin out the jalopy journal\'s board , where you'll find most folks are into hot motors of all types, and there's a good tech tip section about things like that - not a lot of hot rodders/racers here, just old truck lovers, and the only draggin an old truck is meant for is w/ the tow hitch

Bill

Also, don't forget the gang over at the Hi-Po Shop Forum . There's guys over there that never come over here to the General Truck forum Those guys live and breath the kind of stuff you're asking about.

If your intent is to really buzz the old mill and wow the troops when you pop the hood why don't you stick a OHC Pontiac inline six in it. A little mount fabbing but would exactly occupy the same space. There is a "sprint" version that came with a four barrel and I'm almost certain it had a cross flow( 12 port) head. With three side draft Webers on one side and six exhaust tubes on the other side it should make your pants leg get wet just looking at it. The basic complete engine wouldn't cost 1/3 as much as a wayne head, and it would still be all GM.

pontiac OHC sprint just came with a 4 barrel intake, not a 12 port cross flow head, it was rate at 200 HP

it won't wow you with looks, but clifford has a build sheet for the OHC six using their intake, headers and a 292 crank that displaces 302 CI