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#1835 12/20/2002 1:44 PM
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I just got my cylinder head back from the machine shop and last night I started to reassemble it. Considering that this is the first cyl. head I've overhauled, I'm sticking closely to the manual on reassembly. My question has to do with "umbrella seals" on the intake valves. I didn't see them when I disassembled the head but the Haynes manual says the intake valves get them installed. The head gasket and seal set I bought doesn't have these, it only has the little rubber o-ring that goes on each valve stem, which I already know I need to install. Any insight is appreciated.
P.S.---my pontiac 215 is the same engine internally as a chevy 230-250-292.


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#1836 12/20/2002 2:56 PM
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The umbrella seals aren't factory, so it's not unusual to not find them. They're mostly used as a "stop-gap" measure before more serious head work is required. After the o-rings go, they mainly prevent oil from running back down the valve stem and puddling in the cylinder when the motor sits. That's when you get that puff of smoke on start up. A lot of people now also put the umbrella seals on in addition to the o-rings when doing a rebuild just because it's an easy time to do it and it provides extra measure of protection when the o-rings go south (which they will).

That said, I'm a little surprised that you are assembling the heads yourself. That's usually included when you have the heads machined. What did you have done to the heads? If you had new valve guides and seats, did you get new valves to match?


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#1837 12/20/2002 6:00 PM
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To use the umbrella seals, you will need to take the head back to the machine shop and have them spotface the surface for the seals. They should have recommended this for you, it's not that difficult and shouldn't take very long or cost much. Highly recommended, too. Stops oil from seeping down the valve stem and smoking on cold startup.


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#1838 12/23/2002 11:52 PM
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about those O-rings, be sure to compress the spring and retainer, then install the o-ring and valve locks. Some people mistakenly install the o-ring first and the retainer pushes it down the valve stem instead of having it inside the retainer where it is supposed to be.


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