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| | | | Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 399 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 399 | I got my door glass today, and have just about everything else..channels, rubber and stuff to completely redo both of my doors on my 54..My question is about the channels the glass fits in..My shop manual says to use this channel filler, with the soapstone side away from the glass and put some SAE10 oil on it so it will swell up..Has anyone done this, or is there a better, and more modern way of getting my glass to stay in the channel..Thanks, Steve | | | | | Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 579 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 579 | Sounds like you're talking about the vent windows, Shoop. Here's how I did my first one (haven't gotten to the second one yet). I think the bottom of the main window glass where it fits into the regulator channel is done in a similar manner. Two-Forty A/C | | | | | Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 399 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 399 | Hey Larry..Doing everything in the doors..But, just read your attachment..You used Mineral Oil on the window channels to set the glass?..I've got some of that, but no SAE10..I'm taking it all out, and starting from scratch..Wish me luck
Thanks, Steve | | | | | Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 579 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 579 | Yeah Steve. Must have been one of my other restoration books where I picked up the mineral oil recommendation and it worked good (didn't stink up my boss's office, either)  Good Luck! | | | | | Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 399 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 399 | OK..Gonna give it a try on one of them tonight..As long as the filler swells up and holds the glass, I'm a happy camper..Appreciate it, Steve | | | | | Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 531 Shop Shark | | Shop Shark Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 531 | If you guys are talking about fitting the glass into the outer metal channel then what I did for my 56 was to soak the rubber in motor oil (any kind will do) then I layed the rubber into the channel... poked it in place with a flat head screwdriver then slid the glass into place. I then used shock cords to tightly hold the frame in place and layed the frame in front of a heater to help dry up.
All worked well! BTW, the oil idea came from a Chevy Duty Tech. I thought it was weird but it worked.
I should have done my vet windows while all was apart. But I think I can do those with the window assembly in place. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | shooper,
First, make sure you have the correct thickness of soapstone impregnated filler (I have received three thickness from different vendors - the vent window channel and side window channel used different thicknesses). Also, the thickness of the glass panes might be different from orinials. Because of this, the "dry fit" of the glass and filler in the channel should be fairly tight or the pane will slide loose, even after applying the oil.
As you describe, the Shop Manual instructions say to add the oil (mineral oil or engine oil should both be OK) after the pieces are in place. The oil wicks into the soapstone filler and will tighten the joint.
Tim | | | | | Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 399 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 399 | Thanks Tim, I guess I got lucky..I believe I ordered the filler from Chevy Duty, and the glass from the TruckShop..It dry fit pretty tight, and I put the mineral oil on last night..I think I might have put too much on, but I sealed both ends to hold it in, and it seems to be working..Just got to give it time..
Sure appreciate your insight, Steve | | | | | Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 Bubba - Curmudgeon | | Bubba - Curmudgeon Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 29,269 | Steve,
Too much oil will not hurt at all. Just wipe off the excess with a paper towel or dry cloth.
Do not use thinner, gasoline, or any type of spirits (thinner/turpentine/etc) to clean off the oil. These substances will dissolve the soaptone-impregnated filler material (rubber?) - these types of solvents are used to remove the glass from the channel (as you most likely already know, from reading the manual).
By the way, I like your tag line. All those ingredients will be at our 4th of July Party - except for the whole pig. We will have 8 slow-cooked/smoked Boston Butts, home-kegged beer, and fresh oysters/clams (and many delicacies brought by good friends and neighbors). Truck rides for the kids. SummerTime is great - bring on the heat. (Please forgive my digression.)
Tim | | | | | Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 399 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 399 | I don't think my truck can make it there by the 4th, but you sure made us both real hungry and thirsty..Take care my friend..
Have a wonderful holiday weekend..
(home-kegged beer and oysters! I'm jealous)
Steve | | | | | Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 399 Cruising in the Passing Lane | | Cruising in the Passing Lane Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 399 | I know Alan is gonna hate me for this, but after putting my doors and windows back together with the original stuff, like soapstone and oil for the window in the channel, it lasted about 4 turns, and the channel popped off..really don't like dealing with this, so I went and bought some Loctite Power Grab Construction Adhesive and I'm gonna glue the heck outa these things..Just want it to work..Steve | | |
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