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Just curious. Have any of you burb or panel owners ever found a way to mount, in a very secure fashion, the upper shoulder mount bolt for a set of 3 pt belts? I don't see a way to get into or behind the pillar column?? I have the Classic Parts mount plate but if I can't get it behind the sheet metal..... Hum???? Mounting it to the outside surface with 4 hi tensile sheet metal screws??? Still doesn't seem totally safe?? Mig weld the edges of the mount plate to the sheet metal? I don't know. Appreciate your wise input. Thank you all!! | | | | | Joined: May 2015 Posts: 11,168 Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums | | Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums Joined: May 2015 Posts: 11,168 | Just from a standpoint of strength, welding the mount plate to the sheet metal would be stronger than using sheet metal screws. But welding a thicker piece of metal to the thinner sheet metal is difficult. Possibly if the mount plate can be shaped to fit closely to the sheet metal, brazing it in place would be easier and likely just as strong. Way less chance of burning through the sheet metal.
Kevin 1951 Chevy 3100 work truckFollow this saga in Project JournalPhotos 1929 Ford pickup restored from the ground up. | 1929 Ford Special Coupe (First car) Busting rust since the mid-60's If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together. | | | | | Joined: Dec 2020 Posts: 1,975 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2020 Posts: 1,975 | No. I went with lap belts
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| | | | | Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 4,217 Moderator | | Moderator Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 4,217 | I installed 3 point belts into my 1953 panel. I happened to have some 4"x4" x 3/16th plates with half inch holes in the center. I taped it to the end of a wooden yardstick and positioned it behind the sheet metal (there is a bit of room) They have been there for many years, never tested in a crash. The belts came from early 90s Chevy pickup. | | | | | Joined: May 2015 Posts: 11,168 Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums | | Housekeeping (Moderator) Making a Stovebolt Bed & Paint and Body Shop Forums Joined: May 2015 Posts: 11,168 | Leo's method would be better with the plates behind the sheet metal. I did a similar thing on my 3100 using a kit from one of the seat belt vendors made specifically for AD trucks. The headliner has to be out to get the reinforcing plates behind the sheet metal.
Kevin 1951 Chevy 3100 work truckFollow this saga in Project JournalPhotos 1929 Ford pickup restored from the ground up. | 1929 Ford Special Coupe (First car) Busting rust since the mid-60's If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together. | | | | | Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 6,025 Gearhead, Stovebolt Tech and Parts Tracker, Mod for Swap Meet and GTT | | Gearhead, Stovebolt Tech and Parts Tracker, Mod for Swap Meet and GTT Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 6,025 | Maddoggee1959 - Not sure if it may be of some help, but many Bolters have purchased and installed 3-point seat belts from Juliano's Hot Rod Parts to upgrade their rides for safety. Here's a link to Juliano's 3-point seatbelt install in a 1956 Chevy TF Truck that might prove helpful with your question. Not sure if a TF Burb or Panel has the same way to reach up and inside the cab space to install the anchor plate as the truck in the instructions, but maybe a source for further ideas to get there.  Let us know what you end up doing as it could help other Bolters in the future. 
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| | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,878 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 29,878 | It would also be possible to cut a narrow slot in the sheet metal of the door post, insert a backing plate for the belt anchor, attach the anchor with pop rivets, and MIG weld the slot closed.
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| | | | | Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 47 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 47 | Just want to say thank you to all you fellas that have provided me with numerous options for my TF 3 point belt program. I'll let everyone know how it turns out!! Happy New Year! | | |
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