A girl could argue the GM Atlas should be in the list.
'57 GMC 102, Original 347 V8, HydraMatic, 3.08 rear gear, added A/C, disk front brakes, HEI, AFB carb, '98 Honda Black Currant paint. T-boned and totaled 10/12 '52 GMC 152 Stake Bed, Original 228, SM420, added A/C, HEI, disk front brakes, '67 Chev 3.55 rear gear. Gets used as a real truck.
Interesting article; would have been more interesting if criteria were listed, not just opinions.
Jon
Good carburetion is fuelish hot air The most expensive carburetor is the wrong one you attempt to modify. If you truly believe "one size fits all," try walking a mile in your spouse's shoes! The Carburetor Shop
Many may never have owned one but the best inline 6 I ever had was the Pontiac OHC (in a 1966 Le Mans). Plenty of power, 20+ mpg, quiet, cool running and no trouble. I think it had 140,000 miles on it when I sold it and the policeman who bought it for his wife said she drove it for another 7 years.
~ Jon 1952 1/2 ton with 1959 235 | T5 with 3.07 rear end
Hmmmm- - - - -where's the 855 cubic inch Cummins inline six, or the 3406 Caterpillar? How about the Detroit 6-71? LOL! Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
Seem like quite a few of the folks commenting on the thread thought the 300 CID Ford engine should have been included.
Jon
Good carburetion is fuelish hot air The most expensive carburetor is the wrong one you attempt to modify. If you truly believe "one size fits all," try walking a mile in your spouse's shoes! The Carburetor Shop
1. 6-71 Detroit (hands down, no discussion) 2. Stovebolt (includes the 302 Jimmy) 3. 3406B Cat 4. 855 Cummins 5. DT466 International (Pre Maxxforce junk) 6. 258 AMC 6 7. Older Toyota straight six (can't remember the displacement) end of list. Nothing Euro -- Period.
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~ John
"We are not now that strength which in old days Moved earth and heaven; that which we are, we are"
1948 International Farmall Super A 1949 Chevrolet 3804 In the Legacy Gallery | In the Gallery Forum 1973 IH 1310 Dump 2001 International/AmTran RE3000 "Skoolie" 2014 Ford E-350 4x4 (Quigley)
7. Older Toyota straight six (can't remember the displacement) end of list. Nothing Euro -- Period.
John, as I recall they were licensed copies of the GM 235, but they're not exact. I've worked on one in an FJ60 Landcruiser, and the Japanese did some changes that made things hard to work on. My Son-in-law is the owner and wanted to change the engine mounts and I had to remove the alternator and it's bracket to get down to the engine mounts because a bolt wouldn't come out.
Kevin 1951 Chevy 3100 work truck Follow this saga in Project Journal Photos 1929 Ford pickup restored from the ground up. | 1929 Ford Special Coupe (First car) Busting rust since the mid-60's If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together.
The title didn't specify on what the 6-cyl motor would be used. Here's one with one carb per cylinder. They are NOT Rochester B's. It would be used in a vertical position. It's a Mercury motor.
33 Years. Now with a '61 261, 848 head, Rochester Monojet carb, SM420 4-speed, 4.10 rear, dual reservoir MC, Bendix up front, 235/85R16 tires, 12-volt w/alternator, electric wipers and a modern radio in the glove box.
I've got one of those Mercury motors, with "Mariner" badging- - - - -worst PITA I've ever tried to keep running- - - - -at least on all six cylinders at the same time! The electronic ignition system resembles a vacuum cleaner- - - - -it "inhales vigorously!" Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
The Toyota Type F inline six looks very similar to the Stovebolt six but shares no internal or external parts.
It is actually based on the 1939-1963 GMC inline 6. The head is based on the Chevy 216/235 head. It was built under license from GM. Displacement was 238cid
The second generation of this engine was introduced in the mid 1970s.
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy) 1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1956 Cadillac Sixty Special Fleetwood (The Godfather) | 1966 Oldsmobile Toronado (The Purple Knif) | 1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe | 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
I didn't originally list my own experience on a Chevrolet board, but since our leader has listed preferences, I thought some might find my experiences interesting.
Shop van used year round in Missouri with 300 CID six.
Purchased used with 80k miles.
Drove about 3 months and decided I needed stock in Shell Oil if the original Holley 1 barrel was retained.
Changed 3 on tree to 4 on floor.
Changed Holley 1 barrel to Carter 4 barrel (Offy intake). Hwy mileage leaped from 12 MPG to 22 MPG. And it certainly helped the power !!!
Reluctantly junked the van at 440k miles because the Missouri winters (Modot thinks we have to have salt and cinders for the drivers who got their license at xxx-mart) rusted out the body the THIRD time. During the time I owned the van (80k to 440k) the cylinder head was never off the block. I don't think it was before that, but don't know.
The only other domestic straight sixes I have owned:
Ford 213 (burned an exhaust valve almost as often as a polititian told a lie). 235 stovebolt in a passenger car (hwy mileage 12.3, but this before I knew the difference of Rochester and Carter). With what I now know, I am positive I could improve that significantly. Totally reliable.
Several non-domestic, but will not go further with those (I was bitten by the "buy-American" bug) at age 30.
Jon
Good carburetion is fuelish hot air The most expensive carburetor is the wrong one you attempt to modify. If you truly believe "one size fits all," try walking a mile in your spouse's shoes! The Carburetor Shop
33 Years. Now with a '61 261, 848 head, Rochester Monojet carb, SM420 4-speed, 4.10 rear, dual reservoir MC, Bendix up front, 235/85R16 tires, 12-volt w/alternator, electric wipers and a modern radio in the glove box.
Carb King -- We were posting *our* versions of the greatest in-line sixes ... if that helps any. Too much overwrought Euro trash in the Hagerty list (in my opinion... REAL sports cars have 4 cylinders, not 6 ... or 8 ... or 12, and they're cooled by air -- if you want to waste hp lugging around a radiator and a bunch of water ya can't drink ... well, its a free country ))
Just sayin' ... for a friend ...
~ John
"We are not now that strength which in old days Moved earth and heaven; that which we are, we are"
1948 International Farmall Super A 1949 Chevrolet 3804 In the Legacy Gallery | In the Gallery Forum 1973 IH 1310 Dump 2001 International/AmTran RE3000 "Skoolie" 2014 Ford E-350 4x4 (Quigley)
My uncle bought a 93 F150 with the 300 and a five speed back in 95, or maybe it's a 95 bought in 97..? Anyway, he's still got it and last we talked about it, maybe last year, it had a little over 450k miles on it and he had just had the oil pan off of it for the first time for something, I don't remember what. I has not been rebuilt.
Good carburetion is fuelish hot air The most expensive carburetor is the wrong one you attempt to modify. If you truly believe "one size fits all," try walking a mile in your spouse's shoes! The Carburetor Shop