John, I’m getting really excited for you as you work through the things that need to go back on, as you fix things that aren’t exactly right, as you rediscover parts that got put, got forgotten, and got found. Like many more people on this site, I can’t wait to see your completed truck.
Glad you got the twist out of that bolt. That'll help it steer straighter going down the road.
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy) 1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1956 Cadillac Sixty Special Fleetwood (The Godfather) | 1966 Oldsmobile Toronado (The Purple Knif) | 1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe | 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
John, I’m getting really excited for you as you work through the things that need to go back on, as you fix things that aren’t exactly right, as you rediscover parts that got put, got forgotten, and got found. Like many more people on this site, I can’t wait to see your completed truck.
Thanks Paul. It will be great to be driving this truck again after 20+ years.
Originally Posted by Otto Skorzeny
Glad you got the twist out of that bolt. That'll help it steer straighter going down the road.
Ha! Now that's funny! 🤣
~ John in Utah 1946 1/2Ton w/4-speed manual transmission w/1960 235 engine Here We Go Follow in his DITY Bay
- If you think about it, it has been one year ago today!
Wow - I'm getting bored! Been waiting for my radiator relocation plate and water pump, so I removed the existing new pump and cleaned the surfaces. Also, a new radiator is coming, but that will be 2-4 weeks out. So I spent the rest of the morning cleaning up my work bench. I need to replace the lower control arm bushings on the car, so maybe I'll spend some time under that vehicle.
~ John in Utah 1946 1/2Ton w/4-speed manual transmission w/1960 235 engine Here We Go Follow in his DITY Bay
- If you think about it, it has been one year ago today!
My steering box seems to turn smoothly, but the easiest time to work on it is when it's out of the truck. So I decided to open it up and clean out all the old grease - what a mess. I thought I was done with greasy cruddy crap! Anyway, got the parts cleaned out with rags, I have new chassis grease and new gaskets. Not worried about the ball bearings in the small housing since they moving smoothly. Hope I remember how to put it together! 😎
Well, you're not done with the greasy cruddy jobs just yet.I think the chassis grease is too thick. You'll probably have to remove it.
There is a grease used for farm equipment called cornhead grease available from Tractor Supply, etc. It is significantly thinner than chassis grease and is somewhat fluid.
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy) 1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1956 Cadillac Sixty Special Fleetwood (The Godfather) | 1966 Oldsmobile Toronado (The Purple Knif) | 1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe | 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
Corn Head grease is a John Deer product. My local dealer had it the last time I needed some.
'57 GMC 102, Original 347 V8, HydraMatic, 3.08 rear gear, added A/C, disk front brakes, HEI, AFB carb, '98 Honda Black Currant paint. T-boned and totaled 10/12 '52 GMC 152 Stake Bed, Original 228, SM420, added A/C, HEI, disk front brakes, '67 Chev 3.55 rear gear. Gets used as a real truck.
For anyone interested, here's the currently still active link to ye olde JD Corn Head grease for your ordering pleasure.
~ Dan 1951 Chevy 3 window 3100 Follow this story in the DITY Gallery "My Grandpa Carl's Truck and How it Became Mine" 1966 Chevelle (Wife's Hot Rod) | 2013 Chevy Silverado (Current daily driver) US Army MSG Retired (1977-1998) | Com Fac Maint Lead Tech Retired (1998-2021)
Phil Moderator, The Engine Shop, Interiors and Project Journals
1952 Chevrolet 3100, Three on the Tree, 4:11 torque tube Updated to: ‘59 235 w/hydraulic lifters, 12v w/alternator, HEI, PCV and Power front Disc Brakes Project Journals Stovebolt Gallery Forum
Why did you paint your engine blue? I'm sure you said before but I don't remember.
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy) 1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1956 Cadillac Sixty Special Fleetwood (The Godfather) | 1966 Oldsmobile Toronado (The Purple Knif) | 1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe | 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
Looks good John. Don't forget to use sealant on the bolt holes & threads as IIRC all of them penetrate the water jacket. Don't want to get it all buttoned up to find out there are leaks.
Also, you might want to consider Jerry's (Hotrod Lincoln) reply post in this other thread about installing the adapter plate. His added step of a flush filler behind those upper pump/plate to block bolt holes will help with secure installation of the plate/pump and probably improve leak prevention I think.
~ Dan 1951 Chevy 3 window 3100 Follow this story in the DITY Gallery "My Grandpa Carl's Truck and How it Became Mine" 1966 Chevelle (Wife's Hot Rod) | 2013 Chevy Silverado (Current daily driver) US Army MSG Retired (1977-1998) | Com Fac Maint Lead Tech Retired (1998-2021)
... Why did you paint your engine blue? I'm sure you said before but I don't remember.
Back when I had the engine rebuilt, the guys asked me if I wanted it grey or blue. They showed me another 235 they were building and it was blue, so I went blue too. They gave me the left over can of spray paint, but I notice it's not the exact same color? I painted the thermostat housing months ago and it seems to be getting a little darker to match the engine block. Does paint do that?
~ John in Utah 1946 1/2Ton w/4-speed manual transmission w/1960 235 engine Here We Go Follow in his DITY Bay
- If you think about it, it has been one year ago today!
Looks good John. Don't forget to use sealant on the bolt holes & threads as IIRC all of them penetrate the water jacket. Don't want to get it all buttoned up to find out there are leaks.
Also, you might want to consider Jerry's (Hotrod Lincoln) about installing the adapter plate. His added step of a flush filler behind those upper pump/plate to block bolt holes will help with secure installation of the plate/pump and probably improve leak prevention I think.
Yes - I'll make sure to use sealant on all the bolts. Also, I like the idea of using some washers/spacers behind the plate for the new holes. The instructions warned about not over tightening those two and bending the plate. Putting some support behind it makes a lot of sense. Thanks for the suggestions!
~ John in Utah 1946 1/2Ton w/4-speed manual transmission w/1960 235 engine Here We Go Follow in his DITY Bay
- If you think about it, it has been one year ago today!
Does the adapter plate require drilling any new holes in the block?
And I assume that adapter takes the place of the original backing plate on the water pump?
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1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy) 1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1956 Cadillac Sixty Special Fleetwood (The Godfather) | 1966 Oldsmobile Toronado (The Purple Knif) | 1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe | 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
Does the adapter plate require drilling any new holes in the block?
And I assume that adapter takes the place of the original backing plate on the water pump?
Otto - For the details on the adapter plate John used, see this blog page from fellow Bolter Pre '68 Dave that designed and still offers the plate. This info was referred to in John's Engine Shop Moving radiator forward thread.
~ Dan 1951 Chevy 3 window 3100 Follow this story in the DITY Gallery "My Grandpa Carl's Truck and How it Became Mine" 1966 Chevelle (Wife's Hot Rod) | 2013 Chevy Silverado (Current daily driver) US Army MSG Retired (1977-1998) | Com Fac Maint Lead Tech Retired (1998-2021)
Not finished with the water pump yet, but a good start. I need to pick up a couple 1 3/4 inch bolts tomorrow. I got the new holes drilled and tapped. Used a tapered tap first and then a bottoming tap to finish up. I wanted threads as far in as possible. Then, I mounted the water pump to the adapter plate.
~ John in Utah 1946 1/2Ton w/4-speed manual transmission w/1960 235 engine Here We Go Follow in his DITY Bay
- If you think about it, it has been one year ago today!
OK - I believe I have the water pump relocation completed now. I'm using a 42.5 inch belt with alternator. Since the fan was moved up, I can reinstall the crank bolt with the thicker washer - fan will not hit the bolt or the harmonic balancer. Now I'm waiting for corn head grease for the steering box and hopefully the new radiator is on its way.
~ John in Utah 1946 1/2Ton w/4-speed manual transmission w/1960 235 engine Here We Go Follow in his DITY Bay
- If you think about it, it has been one year ago today!
The John Deere corn head grease showed up, so I got going on the steering box rebuild. New gaskets and a seal plus one tube of grease and it's ready to put back in. I've been feeling like I'm not getting enough done, so this steering installed felt good to complete. I just have to hook up the pitman arm and drag link (I believe that's what they're called?) and then set the toe for alignment.
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~ John in Utah 1946 1/2Ton w/4-speed manual transmission w/1960 235 engine Here We Go Follow in his DITY Bay
- If you think about it, it has been one year ago today!
It’s not a sprint John, it’s a marathon. Any resto I’ve ever done; I have a shop full of vintage woodworking machinery that is all as new, I feel the same way. You struggle and work and it doesn’t seem like you’re doing much, but you’re putting in the time. Then everything (magically) falls into place and you suddenly get a lot done and make some real progress. I really like your attention to detail. Everything you have done looks great.
Today I was able to install the pitman arm and drag link. I was looking online for some of those drag link seals, but didn't see the ones I want. Also, to my surprise, I found the bolts and springs for the lower radiator support mounting. I guess I did package and label some things when I took it apart 20+ years ago. Cleaned them up a little on the wire wheel. I did pick up some new bolts and springs, but maybe I'll just use the stock setup.
One thing I noticed is when you turn the steering all the left, the pitman arm slightly touches the brake hose. Very slight, but I'll look at bending the bracket a little to avoid this.
Last edited by UtahYork; 06/30/20256:49 PM.
~ John in Utah 1946 1/2Ton w/4-speed manual transmission w/1960 235 engine Here We Go Follow in his DITY Bay
- If you think about it, it has been one year ago today!
So it seems I'm always thinking about my truck. While I was mowing the lawn, I thought about the pitman arm touching the brake hose, but that was when I didn't have the drag link attached. So I'm thinking maybe it won't touch now because steering stops on the axle might prevent that. I'll have to jack up the front and test the steering to find out. Results to follow.
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~ John in Utah 1946 1/2Ton w/4-speed manual transmission w/1960 235 engine Here We Go Follow in his DITY Bay
- If you think about it, it has been one year ago today!
Good thought process John. If it does touch, you may need to recheck to be sure your steering gear box was correctly centered before attaching the arm to the shaft. Should have the same number of wheel turns left and right from center. I seem to recall that the gear box arm isn't straight up and down on the shaft, but angles slightly to the rear when wheels are straight forward. That placement may be why your arm contacts the brake line hose in the full turn position. Possibly a question that may need more discussion in the Driveline forum.
~ Dan 1951 Chevy 3 window 3100 Follow this story in the DITY Gallery "My Grandpa Carl's Truck and How it Became Mine" 1966 Chevelle (Wife's Hot Rod) | 2013 Chevy Silverado (Current daily driver) US Army MSG Retired (1977-1998) | Com Fac Maint Lead Tech Retired (1998-2021)
All good this morning. Alignment set to 1/16 inch toe-in. I jacked up the front end and turned the wheel left and the steering stops prevent the pitman arm (not pinion) from touching the brake hose.
Last edited by UtahYork; 06/30/20256:48 PM.
~ John in Utah 1946 1/2Ton w/4-speed manual transmission w/1960 235 engine Here We Go Follow in his DITY Bay
- If you think about it, it has been one year ago today!
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy) 1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1956 Cadillac Sixty Special Fleetwood (The Godfather) | 1966 Oldsmobile Toronado (The Purple Knif) | 1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe | 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
Yes, Pitman arm. The pitman arm is the part connected to the steering shaft that transmits the steering wheel motion to the rest of the steering linkage.
And yes, a pinion is the gear that rides a ring gear or the steering rack in a rack and pinion system.
We all knew what you were talking about, I think.
Whatever the parts are called, your work is really nice. That's going to be the nicest 1946 1/2 ton truck anywhere.
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy) 1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1956 Cadillac Sixty Special Fleetwood (The Godfather) | 1966 Oldsmobile Toronado (The Purple Knif) | 1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe | 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
Well, you're not done with the greasy cruddy jobs just yet.
You are correct! I'm going to get some exhaust work tomorrow and I found the pans that go on each side of the engine, down low between the oil pan and frame. I want to make sure the exhaust pipe goes through the hole since I'm using a different manifold now. And maybe the pans weren't really greasy, but the crud was caked on and I had to chip it off with a big screwdriver. Also, the crankcase vent tube might need a new hole in the pan on the passenger side. I'll look at that next.
I did put the steering wheel on. That changes the look in the cab.
Last edited by UtahYork; 07/01/20254:00 AM.
~ John in Utah 1946 1/2Ton w/4-speed manual transmission w/1960 235 engine Here We Go Follow in his DITY Bay
- If you think about it, it has been one year ago today!
Had planned to get some exhaust work done today, but after getting to the muffler shop they'll need to order a few parts - going back Thursday. The '60 exhaust manifold points toward the rear, where the '46 points straight down and there's an easier pipe bend to reach the hole in the bottom pan. He wants to try and use the same hole - I think it would look better. Temporarily installed the pan and I'll get it cleaned up and painted later.
With the truck out of the garage, it sure looks empty.
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~ John in Utah 1946 1/2Ton w/4-speed manual transmission w/1960 235 engine Here We Go Follow in his DITY Bay
- If you think about it, it has been one year ago today!
Got the exhaust installed today. Cody (muffler man) was able to use the existing down hole through the side pan - it was a tight fit. He also installed an extra flange so I could take out the side pan to clean and paint later.
~ John in Utah 1946 1/2Ton w/4-speed manual transmission w/1960 235 engine Here We Go Follow in his DITY Bay
- If you think about it, it has been one year ago today!
I was thinking about that when rolling the truck off the trailer. I had to stand outside to work the e-brake. I kept thinking it would have been easier if I had a chair inside.
~ John in Utah 1946 1/2Ton w/4-speed manual transmission w/1960 235 engine Here We Go Follow in his DITY Bay
- If you think about it, it has been one year ago today!
When I had the fuel tank and seats out of Ol' Roy, I drove it to the gas station sitting on a 5 gallon bucket with a can of gasoline on the floor with a hose running out the window to the fuel pump.
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy) 1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1956 Cadillac Sixty Special Fleetwood (The Godfather) | 1966 Oldsmobile Toronado (The Purple Knif) | 1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe | 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
Just working on some little items this holiday weekend. Exhaust installed then removed to paint the weld joints to help keep them from rusting. I painted the lower engine side pans (not sure what you call them?) - not perfect, but better looking than before. Then I found my front sheet metal surround side pieces and got those cleaned a painted. Temp mounted them in the last picture. I'm still waiting for my new radiator! 😒
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~ John in Utah 1946 1/2Ton w/4-speed manual transmission w/1960 235 engine Here We Go Follow in his DITY Bay
- If you think about it, it has been one year ago today!