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Mod | | Forums66 Topics126,776 Posts1,039,277 Members48,100 | Most Online2,175 Jul 21st, 2025 | | | Joined: Oct 2014 Posts: 113 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2014 Posts: 113 | Has anyone been successful with using an oil additive to free-up stuck hydraulic lifter(s)?
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1955 1st Series 3100 ol'55 | | | | Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 1,841 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 1,841 | You can try Sea Foam, diesel fuel, a retail engine flush, maybe a little gasoline, kerosene, any of those are a solvent that help dissolve sludge, varnish, carbon. Add it to the oil and keep the RPM low. I have used an engine flush from the national chain FLAPS, it has worked on noisy lifters in engines with poor maintenance. If you are religious about oil changes and the oil pressure is normal, you may have issues that an additive can't fix.
1957 Chevrolet 5700 LCF 283 SM420 2 speed rear, 1955 IH 300U T/A, 1978 Corvette 350 auto, 1978 Yamaha DT175, 1999 Harley Davidson Softail Fat Boy
| | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,059 Renaissance Man | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,059 | The problem with these aftermarket lifters is lack of quality control. Invariably you will get one out of the twelve that will hang up internally until the engine warms up right out of the box. I am on my third set of these lifters and that has been my experience on all three sets.
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
| | | | Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 5,320 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 5,320 | Hey Carl, I may have asked you this before , but what setting are you adjusting your lifters.
See the USA in your vintage Chevrolet! My Blog | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,059 Renaissance Man | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,059 | Tighten adjuster 3/4 turn once I take the slack out and feel resistance while manually turning the push rod. I have experimented with 1/4, 1/2 and 1 turn on the noisy one which hasn't eliminated the the cold engine clack. I have also attempted to adjust the clacking lifter while the cold engine was running, but couldn't make it go away. It goes away once the engine is warmed up.
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
| | | | Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 5,320 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 5,320 | I’m not going to say it will fix your problem, but the book calls for 1-1/2 turns. If set any amount less then that the spring inside the lifter is not compressed enough for it to have the force needed to push the plunger up against the push rod and fill the working area inside the lifter with oil. In some cases setting the adjustment at 1-3/4 turns will fix the problem. You don’t want the over tightening the adjustment much more than that or you run the risk of holding a valve open a bit.
See the USA in your vintage Chevrolet! My Blog | | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,059 Renaissance Man | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,059 | I stand corrected. I left the "1" off the amount of turns. I did go by what's in the book and tinkered with different increments between 1 1/4 to 2 turns to try to find the sweet spot which just was not there.
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1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
| | | | Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 5,320 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 5,320 | I know you have been struggling with this. Sorry it hasn’t worked out.
See the USA in your vintage Chevrolet! My Blog | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,674 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,674 | Remove the offending lifter and dismantle it. Mirror polish the plunger with a hard felt buffing wheel and jeweler's rouge or a similar grease-based polishing compound. I use the same type of polish to prepare firearm parts for bluing. Jerry
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| | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,674 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,674 | The design of the early stovebolt hydraulic lifters did not provide a pathway for trapped air to be purged from the lifter bore. Later designs used a tiny pinhole in the pushrod seat to allow for a small leak to happen, which allowed the trapped air to escape much more quickly. I have seen several modification procedures to the lifter and the bottom of the pushrods suggested to create a very small amount of leakage to accomplish that kind of air displacement. BTW- - - -Lincoln Zephyr V-12 engines in the 1930s and 40s also used a very primitive design of hydraulic lifter, and they had similar problems with noisy lifters on a cold start. Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
| | | | Joined: Jul 2014 Posts: 854 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jul 2014 Posts: 854 | Jerry, What color rouge? There's white, red, green and maybe more. All different coarseness. 1951 3800 1-ton"Earning its keep from the get-go"In the DITY Gallery1962 261 (w/cam, Fenton headers, 2 carbs, MSD ign.), SM420 & Brown-Lipe 6231A 3spd aux. trans, stock axles & brakes. Owned since 1971. | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,674 Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) | Kettle Custodian (pot stirrer) Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 28,674 | I use a grease based white rouge sold by Brownell's gunsmithing supply called "555". It produces a mirror shine final finish after polishing with a series of coarser media polishing steps. The idea is to eliminate any roughness that might be there during manufacture of the lifters. It works best with a large diameter (8") hard felt polishing wheel and medium speed when preparing firearms for hot tank caustic bluing. Jerry
"It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and eliminate all doubt!" - Abraham Lincoln Cringe and wail in fear, Eloi- - - - -we Morlocks are on the hunt! There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. - Ernest Hemingway Love your enemies and drive 'em nuts!
| | | | Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,059 Renaissance Man | Renaissance Man Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 10,059 | My push rods have grooves in them to let air out. One day I may go to the trouble of removing the hanging lifter and polish the plunger. My side cover has a leak in it anyway and I have a spare gasket in stock.
1952 5-window - return to "as built" condition | 1950 3100 with a 235 and a T-5 transmission
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