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#154893 09/20/2007 4:19 AM
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Hello fellow bolters. I recently purchased a new project: a 1952 gmc 9430 1 ton with dump/hoist.
My question is: The master brake cylinder seems to be plugged with corrosion from sitting. Should I replace with another stock one from a online vintage parts store or is there something else that I should upgrade. Would the stock master cylinder provide enough braking power for this baby?

ps: I am new to this site and it has already helped me a great deal. thanks folks


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If you keep it stock and drive slow, (you don't have a choice with the original gears), then an original master cylinder will be fine.

If you want a little safer system, then a dual circuit master cylinder and bracket kit available from the usual places would be a good idea.

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#154895 09/20/2007 6:57 AM
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thanx I shall check de catelog. Ward


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Grigg,
This going to sound like a dumb question, but are the dual system master cylinders the same for 1/2 tons and 2 tons?


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Hy Guys, master cylinders are spec'd by the volume of fluid they need to move to make the wheel cylinders do their job, the more volume, or number of cylinders, the larger the master cylinder must be. So the short answer to Super55s question is NO they should not be the same, hope that helps.

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3B.. How are you doing? So, is there a new after market dual system cylinder available? I am guessing that the ones you see in the magazines are for the half tons.


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#154899 09/24/2007 1:41 AM
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Yes, the ones in the catalogs are for 1/2 tons.

I have had good luck by going to the junk yard and picking the master cylinder off a truck with the size brake calipers I am actually using, it's already a factory designed matching system.

Or, go to the parts store and select one form the vehicle you are using the brakes from, if you use the old brakes and just want a new master look for a newer truck with similar sized wheel cylinders, and use that master.
MC mounting details are pretty standard for each auto manufacturer, so chances are that the brackets will work with the proper sized MC.

To design your own system properly read this article, it covers how to properly size the MC.
http://www.4wheeloffroad.com/techarticles/drivetrain/131_0708_4x4_disc_brakes/index.html

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1948 Chevrolet 6400 - Detroit Diesel 4-53T - Roadranger 10 speed overdrive - 4 wheel disc brakes
1952 Chevrolet 3800 pickup
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"First, get a clear notion of what you desire to accomplish, and then in all probability you will succeed in doing it..." -Henry Maudslay-

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