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Hey Fellas!
Finally installed an orig turn signal switch(replacement), and actually got them to work! Took me a day or two of troubleshooting!

Question. I purchased everything listed for the horn button from LMC. Including new bushing with wire. I assembled it all with our orig cap which is in good shape.
The horn works, but the button sticks a lot. I feel like I'm missing some sort of spring that would help the button pop up away. I installed the heavy tightly coiled spring under the wheel. (is that wrong?)
I installed the round flat piece that has the teeth mounted on it to hold the cap under the steering wheel nut. Does that sound correct? I feel like under the cap should be a large 2 or 3 coiled spring about 2in diameter.
Does that flat plate supposed to flex that much? I don't see how under the hold down nut.

I can send a pic later today if needed.

Its a 1959 Chevy Apache 3100 shortbed stepside with original steering wheel.

Thanks!!


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This gizmo is all that makes the horn button "pop up".

Last edited by Bill Hanlon; 04/29/2024 1:39 PM.

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I have that flat plate with the "teeth". Is it supposed to flex?


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Any other answers? Does that part flex or not? Maybe I need to remove it and flex it back and fourth to sort of break it in?


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This is a plate from a 58 . the spring is in between the two plates.
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Yes, it is supposed to flex and there are 3 non-conducting washers there on the rivets. I've rebuilt some of these and finding insulating washers is often not easy. When the two sides touch each other, your circuit is complete and your horn honks. Good luck!


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The picture I posted above is of a brand new from Classic Parts horn switch that I installed in my '52 eleven years ago. It didn't work when I installed it. After a little investigating, I found that someone in the factory in whatever 3rd world country that made it didn't understand that the very nicely painted black piece was supposed to conduct electricity to the bare metal bottom piece when the horn button was pushed. I pinched a piece of 240 grit sandpaper between the two pieces and sanded off the black paint. Been working well since.


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Well I think my problem is it is way too stiff. I think it was from LMC, usually they have good products. My horn honks but the cap seems to get stuck in down position then the horn wont shut off.

Thank you guys/gals for the responses!


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Would some light lithium grease in any locations help?


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took it apart again pulled steering wheel.

Seems like the nut holding the wheel on is jamming the "plate". I'm installing with "teeth" up.


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Just in case it may help, below is a screenshot from a 1955-59 Factory Assembly Manual showing the exploded diagram for the steering wheel with horn button assembly. Perhaps this helps??? wink
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Ok dug my old plate out of leftover parts bin. Its way more springy than the new one. So I cleaned it up a bit and installed it. IT WORKS!

Bill Hanlon after thinking about what you posted my new plate has paint all underneath the first plate as well. I'm hard headed but your words kept repeating in my head. You were correct Sir.

Here is a picture my Queen took. That's me under the hood re connecting the Horns
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Last edited by Roadking53; 05/15/2024 12:34 AM.

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