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Hi,
This is my first post here on Stovebolt, or any forum.
I bought a 1950 GMC 1/2 ton as a parts vehicle and noticed it had a oil canister/filter housing, but it wasn't mounted to the intake but to the firewall. I was gonna use it on my '49 Chevy but I can't identify the make so I can buy filters for it. The canister was yellow before I painted it and the lid black. I was leaning towards Fram but the indentations on the bottom look different than the ones I see online. Also the inlet is marked into the steel rather than a decal.
The only form of identification I found were remnants of a label attached with a thin wire, the visible letters are "Canada" "KC" "DENNISO***".
If somebody has any clue please let me know. Thanks!
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For being new to any forum, you've done a good job adding the images; and good detail on what's going on. I think someone will be "along soon" who can help you. (Welcome to Stovebolt! wink )

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If your truck is a Canadian truck it may be different then the American models .My filter says on the top of the lid uses Krawlinator 55a


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Wow, Kevin. Never knew that.


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Thanks for the replies. Unfortunately there wasn't a filter in it. I will check out the link.

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Fortunately, a little common sense and a few measurements with a dial caliper and a tape measure will help you to select the proper filter element. Bypass filters such as yours have a small hole drilled into the vertical standpipe in the center of the canister that controls oil flow. It's usually about 1/16 inch in diameter, and is located about 2/3 of the distance up the standpipe from the bottom of the canister. The proper element will have rubber grommets that are a very snug fit on the center pipe. Most canisters will have a spring built into the lid that holds the element bottomed out against the cross bar that's visible near the bottom of the can. As long as the element isn't too tall to allow the lid to be installed securely, the diameter of the element is pretty flexible. "Bigger is better" but it's not necessary for the element to fill the whole diameter of the can. The grommets MUST be a very snug fit to the center pipe, however. Oil enters the canister from the side port, flows through the filter media, and exits the canister from the bottom fitting after passing through the flow metering orfice. There's a lot of upward pressure exerted against the cover by the oil pressure, so use a new, properly-fitting gasket, and clamp the cover bolt down TIGHT! For instance- - - -a 4 inch diameter cover with engine oil pressure of 30 PSI has 377 pounds of upward push on it. Even a slightly loose cover bolt results in a nasty oil leak!
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Thanks Jerry!
I will measure and do a search for possible compatible elements, I do see the hole you mentioned.
There is no spring in the cap or the bottom, perhaps some parts are missing?
I wonder if it's a knock off version of an AC S-6 or something similar that somebody slapped on there back in the day.
At any rate, I appreciate all the replies!

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One more post and you'll be past moderation, and then you won't have to wait to see the post in the forum. It doesn't have to be much. Just a thanks here will do. wink


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Most AC filters have a beehive-shaped spring attached to the top bolt that puts down pressure on the element. It isn't totally necessary, but it helps to keep the element from shifting around. It's not difficult to do a little creative tweaking to a hardware store spring to accomplish the same result without getting obsessive about the exact shape or tension.
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Thanks again.
I have had to do a lot of "custom" work already on this truck, so I am confident I will figure something out. Thanks guys!

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that definitely looks like my A6. I purchased an STP Part #P4 SKU #77443 from AutoZone for mine. Should be a 5" diameter canister.


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Okay. Mine has an id of 4 3/8" and the centre rod is just about 9/16". I'll check out those filters you mentioned.

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Took a few pictures of mine to compaire .i used to get the krawlinater k55 filters until a local shop closed then went to a Napa filter but in the end I found that Canadian tire stocks a fram I believe c4 filter at a good price .Also mine has no spring inside so it may just be a Canadian difference
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I have no spring on my AD Chevy or my '56 Cadillac. I don't think they were ever stock on either one.


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I just received my C4 Filter in the mail. It's a perfect fit!
Just for anyone else who might have a similar situation, here are a few pics:
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Great info Jerry. Gives me something to look at with my 235 bypass filter.


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