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Since UBB Threads is no longer supported and buggy as the dickens, the Board of VCCA (website) has decided to migrate to new software while keeping the old site archived for reference.

We're on day three of the change and we're starting to figure things out although it's still a ways to the top of the mountain. On the new site everyone will have to reset their password to log in. There has been some turmoil over logging in. I'm not sure if that's all fixed yet or not. The webmaster has been busier than a one legged man in a butt kicking contest (us Mods as well; it's all new to us, too).

If you are a VCCA Club Member, you use either your registered email or your membership number as the User ID. I had to use my membership ID number but some got through using their email.

Like I said I don't know if that's sorted yet or not. I haven't seen too many complaints in the last day so it may be fixed. At any rate, if you visit the VCCA site, forums and/or main club page, you will have to log-in and it's all new. Non-Club Members will have to re-register to the site.

It wasn't a popular decision but probably necessary since eventually UBB will die and not be fixable. One of the original authors of the UBB code was working with us and prompted the move away from it. John, Peggy, something to think about.

Good luck all.

Tiny, thanks for this info. I'm going to move this to News and Announcements since some Bolters don't go the Spoon.

A forum I've been a long time member, moderator, and now administrator of went away from UBB quite a while ago, first to Vbulletin, and then to Fora sorftware. Much valuable information was lost each time, including links to older threads. And they are a big outfit with lots of resources to deal with the conversion. Even then it was UGLY. Getting members logged back in is just a small part of the conversion. Hope VCCA's migration goes better, and if Stovebolt goes that way we can manage to keep all the valuable stuff.

At least they have a Home page that is still intact....? I don't really know. We have referred more of the car stuff that shows up on Stovebolt other there to the VCCA Chat.

Let's watch and see...

It's all VCCA.org. vccachat is only archived for reference. When it finally dies and isn't fixable, what hasn't been moved elsewhere manually will be lost.

I don't know what they mean by buggy. We've had a few problems, but not many. I would dread having to move. The grass is always greener until you get there and find out the quirks of the new software are just the same as the old.

As far as the no longer supported goes, HUH?? They are currently working on a version that will be compatible with PHP8.x, so this is news to me. I've asked in their forum about it.

I'm with Paul re: dreading having to move. My experience on the receiving end of a change in forum software was NOT fun.

Why have we been reduced to abbreviations in our writings and speech, Is it because we are lazy or short on time or it is totally the fault of the computer age? Of course, I do not have the answer like for a lot of the time. What triggered this was the use of, VCCA in the title of the post. I had no clue what it could stand for. Of course, I Googled it and so what it stood for. BTW I did Google the letters and came up with a few other organizations that use the letters, one was a veterinarian group and another was a Virginia group. :dance: :ohwell:

Ron, Not knowing what VCCA stood for should have been your first clue that the thread did not pertain to you.

Just sayin'

Have a nice day and thank you for your continued interest in the old truck hobby.

It seems someone has been misled. Whether it's here or there is above my pay grade. It can't be both ways. I'll make this known to the BOD so they can investigate. Right or wrong, the new software is much more user friendly. I just wish the content from UBB to anything was transferable.

Tiny -- Just to reiterate what Paul said ... A few years ago, when I (I'll not speak for Peggy or Paul on this particular issue...) got very frustrated with UBB, we started some research on possible alternatives. What I determined for myself was that other BB platforms had advantages over UBB but they also had some drawbacks, too. Bottom line for me was that there wasn't a truly great BB platform out there so we've just stuck with UBB and made it work.

Like Paul said, a transition to an alternate BB platform, especially without being able to migrate legacy content, is simply out of the question at this point. I've come to terms with UBB and we're making it work.

As I vaguely recall, we were looking for something "open source." There are top-shelf, top-dollar BBs out there for a range of *high* prices. I guess if we had advertising, we'd have a few bucks to use. Watch out fellas, we wondered about *monetizing* the Spoon to cover the costs for the whole shebang.

Back to UBB, it had a bunch of neat things we found we could use, in keeping with some of the initial thoughts from The Stovebolt Page, being an e-zine (remember that term ). After all this time, we continue to learn more and more as we go along and get into the monkey-works in here. I'm looking forward to the updates that Paul's talking about.

Also, something I just now noticed, and perhaps Tiny knows the answer. The Chat was it's own entity (.org)? So did Chat move into the VCCA.org space? (See image) I guess a Spoon move would be just the opposite.

The fellow that answered your Shout Chat query over on UBB Central is the fellow who advised us to move away from UBB. V7.7.5 was released four years ago. It's my understanding the proposed release of V8.0 was made over two years ago by a non developer. Anyway this post was meant as and advisory to those who peruse both so they'll be expecting the different experience and to let John & Peggy know of our experience. Mission accomplished.

So, Tiny. Is this what was / is happening then? Is the parent organization bigger than the Chat part? Maybe we should move this to PM-ing. The Bolters who go to VCCA have been alerted to the Chat change. The rest is "in house" kind of stuff. Don't want to bore them with that.

Chat is now part of the main page. There is no vccachat as a living BB any longer. Since UBB uses/allows non standard HTML in post formatting it's impossible to use automation to migrate to a new site. vccachat.org will remain viewable and navigable for reference but only reference.

That should help then so people can "link back" to the old BB when needed, I suppose. Better than totally lost.