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Mod | | Forums66 Topics126,781 Posts1,039,301 Members48,100 | Most Online2,175 Jul 21st, 2025 | | | Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 47 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 47 | I have a '53 3800 that is getting closer to the road. I'd like to raise the front end about 2", just so it sits more level and has a little more clearance at the tires. I had planned to put a 2" block between the springs and axle until I read that blocks should never be used on a front axle because of the added leverage during cornering and braking. Is a block ok on a truck with 4 wheel drums that can only go 45 mph? Whats my alternative? I suppose I could have the springs re-arched? Even an inch would help if 2" is too much. | | | | Joined: Sep 2015 Posts: 81 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Sep 2015 Posts: 81 | I had planned to put a 2" block between the springs and axle until I read that blocks should never be used on a front axle because of the added leverage during cornering and braking. Repeat this out loud as many times as it takes for the information to sink in. Contact Detroit Spring for a new set of springs for your truck. Steve
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| | | | Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,288 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,288 | Pa Farmer, I was in your situation with my 3600. Last year I installed a helper spring in my front spring packs for less than $40.00. That with a couple more things made my truck MUCH better. Link to writeup here.Added in edit: just checked my old post and the helper spring I used is not available on Ebay as linked. However Amazon has it here.The helper spring, “Pro Comp add a leaf 13170” is 1.75” wide which works for my 3600. Your 3800 may be wider, if so and you want to go with this mod, wider helpers are readily available. Good Luck, RonR
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1951 3600 with Clark flatbed, T5, 4.10 rear 1970 340 Duster 1990 5.0 V8 Miata (1990 Mustang Gt Drivetrain) 1964 CJ5
| | | | Joined: Nov 1995 Posts: 5,470 Bond Villain | Bond Villain Joined: Nov 1995 Posts: 5,470 | Ron -- So the helper pack just, basically, returns the front end to the spec geometry? Nonetheless, I think Wheelie has the right answer -- fix the problem, don't just apply bandaids to it. Gov't Acquisition Law: What you need isn't what you want. What you want isn't what you can afford. What you can afford isn't whats available. What's available isn't what you need. 
~ John "We are not now that strength which in old days Moved earth and heaven; that which we are, we are" 1948 International Farmall Super A1949 Chevrolet 3804In the Legacy Gallery | In the Gallery Forum1973 IH 1310 Dump2001 International/AmTran RE3000 "Skoolie"2014 Ford E-350 4x4 (Quigley) | | | | Joined: Jan 2019 Posts: 2,249 Herder of Cats, Goats, and Sheep (moderator) | Herder of Cats, Goats, and Sheep (moderator) Joined: Jan 2019 Posts: 2,249 | Gov't Acquisition Law: What you need isn't what you want. What you want isn't what you can afford. What you can afford isn't whats available. What's available isn't what you need.  So why did I have to spend 6 weeks in DAWIA when they could just summarize it in 4 sentences? | | | | Joined: Oct 2021 Posts: 5,686 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2021 Posts: 5,686 | That's Eaton-Detroit Springs
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy) 1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1956 Cadillac Sixty Special Fleetwood (The Godfather) | 1966 Oldsmobile Toronado (The Purple Knif) | 1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe | 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
| | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 331 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: May 2005 Posts: 331 | St. Louis Spring St. Louis Spring is another good source - springs made to original specs. I've bought from both and happy with both. I have no affiliation with either. Samantha
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| | | | Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,109 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,109 | My only issue with Eaton was that I ordered 2-inch lowered springs and they did not tell me they were already 2-inch lowered. So on the back country roads in VA. I leveled the cent heap of gravel. I had to buy a new set. If you look at the gallery picture in Stovebolt it was taken on that trip. BTW it is an AMC Pacer front suspension.
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Ron, The Computer Greek I love therefore I am.1954 3100 Chevy truckIn the Gallery 2017 Buick Encore See more pix1960 MGA Roadster Sold 7/18/2017
| | | | Joined: Jan 2019 Posts: 2,249 Herder of Cats, Goats, and Sheep (moderator) | Herder of Cats, Goats, and Sheep (moderator) Joined: Jan 2019 Posts: 2,249 | My only issue with Eaton was that I ordered 2-inch lowered springs and they did not tell me they were already 2-inch lowered. So on the back country roads in VA. I leveled the cent heap of gravel. I had to buy a new set. If you look at the gallery picture in Stovebolt it was taken on that trip. BTW it is an AMC Pacer front suspension. Can you explain what happened again? What did they not tell you? | | | | Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 4,168 "Hey! I sound like Darth Vader!! | "Hey! I sound like Darth Vader!! Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 4,168 | That's how I read it. He ordered 2" lowered springs and sent him 2" lowered springs. Unless they lowered the 2" springs 2 more inches. | | | | Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,109 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,109 | I ordered 2 inches lower than stock but for some reason, they were 4 inches lowered. This is my 54 with a 79 AMC pacer front suspension. Mark's last comment is correct. If you look at the picture that is in the gallery it shows, then look at the other pictures after I corrected the issues. The bumper overriders are almost touching the grass. I have a cousin who lives in Harrisonburg Va. and he lives off of 80 on a country road I smoothed out the gravel center of the road when I visited.
Ron, The Computer Greek I love therefore I am.1954 3100 Chevy truckIn the Gallery 2017 Buick Encore See more pix1960 MGA Roadster Sold 7/18/2017
| | | | Joined: Jan 2019 Posts: 2,249 Herder of Cats, Goats, and Sheep (moderator) | Herder of Cats, Goats, and Sheep (moderator) Joined: Jan 2019 Posts: 2,249 | I ordered 2 inch lower than stock but for some reason, they were 4 inches lowered. This is my 54 with a 79 AMC pacer front suspension. Mark's last comment is correct. If you look at the picture that is in the gallery it shows, then look at the other pictures after I corrected the issues, Were they 4" lowered from stock for the pacer? That is a very common mistake people make with Mustang II parts. The "stock" height parts are 2" lower than the stock height on the trucks. | | | | Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,109 'Bolter | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,109 | Maybe all I know is I had to buy a new set. I sit and wonder where all the take-offs are, I did not know way back then they were worth anything. JDL got some.
Ron, The Computer Greek I love therefore I am.1954 3100 Chevy truckIn the Gallery 2017 Buick Encore See more pix1960 MGA Roadster Sold 7/18/2017
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