Just a quick reply that the casting code pictured "3837004" is noted to be a 1955-57 235 with the large water pump hole according to my "US" engine data. Can't confirm if Canadian 235's used the same casting number???
The "C252537" serial number would indicate a Canadian made engine, as that format wasn't used in US 235's. Hopefully someone with more Canadian engine knowledge will chime in and provide more details.
As you are indicating a "Victoria, BC" location, it would make sense that you have a Canadian 235.
If you look for the "casting date code" info on the side of the block directly above where the starter mounts, that may better pinpoint when it was built. Maybe post another pic when you get the chance.
Hope this answers your question.
Dan
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Just a quick reply that the casting code pictured "3837004" is noted to be a 1955-57 235 with the large water pump hole according to my "US" engine data. Can't confirm if Canadian 235's used the same casting number???
The "C252537" serial number would indicate a Canadian made engine, as that format wasn't used in US 235's. Hopefully someone with more Canadian engine knowledge will chime in and provide more details.
As you are indicating a "Victoria, BC" location, it would make sense that you have a Canadian 235.
If you look for the "casting date code" info on the side of the block directly above where the starter mounts, that may better pinpoint when it was built. Maybe post another pic when you get the chance.
Hope this answers your question.
Dan
Thank you for following up, Dan. It was rebuilt up-Island in '86 from what I was told. Those numbers were on the block, right behind where the starter mounts onto the bell housing. But I will look some more...
The 12 volt starter was reassembled today and installed in the truck (as per bartamos suggestions). After running some test runs with the plugs out it engaged well. And retracted as it should.
After connecting the battery, I gave it a full start and ignition check and it fired right up.
Bartamos, I did forget to polish up the end of the pinion gear. But it seems to engage ok regardless.
Hopefully this will be the end of base starting problems.
Sure was a good learning experience re: the engine vintage -- 6v vs 12v ring gear. Looking back it now seems logical of what the previous owner was trying to accomplish some 25 years ago. Perhaps he knew that the engine was not a 6 volter. Only wish I'd known
Thanks guys for your advice and challenges to my questions
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Now, while the hood was open and the sun shining of the front of the engine, it reminded me of another issue ..but not serious. Have a look at the second pic ...
Notice that the fan is not centered to the radiator, the blade tips actually fly below it. Does this have something to do with the engine being a later edition than the rest of the cooling system? Obviously, all 235s and not the same, huh
I can imagine that overall cooling is affected. Although I've never experienced any overheating. (I realize this is not the right forum for this new issue, but thought I'd ask anyway)
If it cools it cools. The lower area of radiator is cooler anyway. Fan only good a low truck speeds. Put the dip stick back in. Nut missing on front of manifiold. All is good. Nice work.
Now, while the hood was open and the sun shining of the front of the engine, it reminded me of another issue ..but not serious. Have a look at the second pic ...
Notice that the fan is not centered to the radiator, the blade tips actually fly below it. Does this have something to do with the engine being a later edition than the rest of the cooling system? Obviously, all 235s and not the same, huh
I can imagine that overall cooling is affected. Although I've never experienced any overheating. (I realize this is not the right forum for this new issue, but thought I'd ask anyway)
Yes. There is a water pump relocation plate you can use to raise the fan. But if the system works, why mess with it.
If it cools it cools. The lower area of radiator is cooler anyway. Fan only good a low truck speeds. Put the dip stick back in. Nut missing on front of manifiold. All is good. Nice work.
Makes sense about the overall cooling. (which reminds me, with Winter coming I gotta look at fixing the heater core -- it's leaking a tad onto the PS foot mat)
You have eagle-eyes there. I snapped the shot just before replacing the dipstick Manifold ...it is a short location stud (no threads).
Yes. There is a water pump relocation plate you can use to raise the fan. But if the system works, why mess with it.
Now I think I recall some mention of a kit for the readjustment of the waterpump and fan. At the time I guess I didn't think it important enough as a daily driver.
... So be careful of the dreaded "two or three things wrong at once syndrome".
...and it happened ..sort of unrelated: while waiting to install the starter, our pond 'fencer' had packed it in and a heron or otter went after the biggest goldies. And raccoons got to our lumber pile: it was uncovered and got soaking wet.
But at least the success of the truck starting saved the day. Now it can be moved out of the weather.
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Couldn't even if I wanted to ...not long enough and no threads. That must have been my hint at the time.
The pins are threaded into the head- - - - -some people replace them with bolts. Bad idea! Jerry
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I think that would be a good idea and please start that thread in the engine section...you'll get more (and better) attention than in the electrical bay.
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