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need upgrading, what has everyone done for rim and wheel combos, i know i can get ford rims from the 90s that work well. what tire size goes good with them? a 265/75/16? which converts to a 33ish by 10.4 ish??

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i am in dire need of the specs on this!

The rims are 19.5's and I purchased them from southwestwheel.com the kit is SWWC2A. The truck has a 14 bolt rear axle which made installation easier and I drilled out the front the front hubs for larger studs. The kit comes with 4 aluminum and 2 steel rims with center caps. The only problem I had was the steel rims in the kit were closer to the rear springs than I liked but I had some other rims that solved that problem. I also changed the center caps to GM center caps so that meant installing metric studs which is no problem because the metric and standard studs are the same size where they press into the hubs.

What steel rim did you substitute for the ones that came in the kit?

They are factory rims off of a 1 ton chevy short bus.

My 1 ton just got these wheels and tires today.

Chris,
Out of curiosity, what wheels and tires are those?

They look like Dexstar trailer rims. P/N : Am20766.

https://www.etrailer.com/s.aspx?qry=Dexstar+AM20766

I used these on my one ton with a 215/85/16 (IIRC). They cleared my Canadian tie rods with about 1/2” of clearance. You lose about an inch of ride height. This combo has been great on my 1951 1 ton. I still have to rivet on my original hubcap clips, but haven’t got to it in over 1500 miles!


Here is a link of my build showing these rims. I also attached a picture of it completed. I’d use these rims again in a heartbeat. The only negative I have to say about them is that they didn’t clean off the welding spatter 100% on the backside, so there are bumps in the paint around the backside welds. This stopped me from giving a 5/5 rating. I gave 4/5.

I run 16 inch Ford 3/4 ton 4X4 rims from the eights with 235/85's on my 46 3/4 ton and they fit nice.

Hey John do you still have those inner wheels and would you be willing to part with them? Thanks

Sorry, Already sold them.

Are your wheels hub centric for that year or stud centric?

I now have over 5000 kms on my rebuilt 51 Canadian 1 ton. I did rebuild and try the split rims, the ride was wobbly, but as your aware, you cannot balance the split rims. So I got rims from a 1989 ford 1 ton van at the wreckers, I put LT285/75R16 rubber on and they sit 33" high which was the same as the original height, they clear the tye rod arms with 1/2" clearance, then I had to pull the front of the rear fenders out a out a bit to achieve 1" clearance. I simply used a hydraulic bottle jack, (inside the fender) on the forward section of the rear fender, there is no noticeable difference in appearance. The truck drives great. To tighten up the steering box I used red grease, just fill the steering box with your grease gun. You have to fill it right full after driving it for a while.
Cheers,
Andymcstalbert

Hi Andy,
Nice looking ride you have there. Welcome to the Bolt.
Looking forward to spring cruising with my 50 Canadian 1 Ton hopefully will see you around.
Doyle

That *is* a nice truck, Andy. But I beg to differ on your statement that multi-piece wheels can't be balanced. Mine were balanced and it turned out great. Many miles now on new and balanced biased plies. Who says they can't be balanced????

I had my bias ply's with split rims balanced and trued. They rolled like they were on a glass surface.

back when I was deciding on tires/rims, i had sandblasted and painted six original split rims. My trusted and local tire shop said that the rubber/tube with bent tube air valve combo that we selected could not be balanced. I then borrowed a set of tire with split rims from a buddy with a driver 1 ton chevy in Saskatchewan and found the ride to be wobbly, therefore I decided to go tubeless. I am glad to hear that you bolters have had success with the split. With this new found knowledge I can reconsider if I ever want to go that way. I love the 38 Wayne, and look forward to seeing your Truck Doyle. thankyou John for the knowledge to question my local tire shop. I will certainly mention this to my local tire shop.
cheers! Andy

Andy ... You bet. Another thought ... Is your shop a franchise tire shop (like Mr. Tire, etc)? A lot of us have had great success taking our multi-piece wheels and bias ply tires to tire places that service agriculture machines or big trucks (usually NOT a chain store ...). They are usually adept at handling the older styles.

Just a thought ...

I also run a multi piece rim with tubed radial tires. I actually went to AAA auto service and they balanced them. They did use the stick on weights which I then put epoxy over them to prevent them from loosening up and falling off. I also purchased Centramitic disks to help out with the balancing. Yes, overkill! Have no issues at all!

Jim's post reminded me (BTW, his truck is gorgeous and a lot of fun to convoy with!)

Yet *another* thing to consider ... A lot of guys have had their tires made perfectly round on a tire lathe. I thought that was crazy until my friend with a Powerwagon did it to his *very* expensive Michelins. The difference was truly amazing. And you (like I was) might be completely gobsmacked at just how out of round most tires are these days.

If you find that balancing still doesn't smooth things out, consider a tire lathe. Next trick is finding someone who has one ...

I worked as a mechanic in a tire factory for five years, most of that time in the section known as "Final Finish." This is where the new tires that come from the presses go to be cleaned up, balanced and then sent to the inspectors. All new tires go through a dynamic balancing machine where they are graded. If they are on spec, they get sent on for clean up then final inspection and off to the shipping department. These are OE tires (for auto/truck manufacturers). If they require grinding to get into spec, they head to a machine that chucks them up (horizontally), pressurizes them, then spins them at a high speed to determine where the "thick" spots are. A pair of grinders on arms then moves in to remove tread at these spots. This process is repeated until the tire is in spec. These tires are sold to your various local tire stores. It was well known in the plant I worked at that the tires that had the most rubber ground off of them were sold to WalMart.

I have a 3800 chevy stake body truck. The original wheels are 18". I am looking to upgrade to 19.5" tires and rims. Will a newer chevy wheel work, or do I need a Ferd wheel? Can anyone help with my situation?

Later model 19.5 rims that come off panel vans and small buses with a GM drivetrain will work on your truck. I have found that front rims have a different offset as compared to the rears on some trucks. On my truck I used fronts on the inside rears to give a little more clearance between rim and rear springs but I'm running a 14 bolt rear instead of the original. It may be a little different using the original axle. The only drawback I've found with the 19.5's is most all of the tires are 10-14 ply and are quite pricey. Hope this info helps. There's a picture of my truck at the beginning of this post.

8 lug on 6.5" 19.5 dual type wheels can be found with two distinct center or dish profiles. I don't believe this is relative to front or rear location nor wheel width or offset, just different style from different manufacturing time or place, I've had both and believe they had same part number.

The "cone" shaped center does not fit on the rear drums of our old trucks, or not likely to fit.
The "concave/convex" shaped center likely will fit.

Even with the concave/convex type 8 lug 19.5 wheel the center dish can be very close or too close to the drum. When I had these wheels on my 51 GMC 1 ton I cut the centers out of some old cast drums (from a 14 bolt) to make wheel spacers enough to clear the wheels on the drums.

Has anyone tried to put a radial tire with a tube on these spit rims?

Yup!
Still running them!
Jim

Jim .... It suddenly occurs to me that I have never actually driven your truck to see what those radials are like. Kayla, of all people, has driven your truck multiple times. I, as yet, have not... !!!! .... We must do something about that. Winchester? I'd like to experience this radial fuss and see if I am missing something. My bias plys seem to be doing okay thus far. But I would like to think that I possess somewhat of an open mind in these matters and if I am led astray ...perish the thought but yes, it could be so ... a mighty big if as it were ... you, Sir, could be the one who brings me to the path of enlightenment.

Peace, love, out
J

Mr Milliman,
Not only would I be so humbled if you took my truck for a spin around the block, it would be an honor!
Did you ever drive Amtrek’s? It’s feels like power steering! So easy and smooth! Breaks on the other hand, need some adjusting, ……..Joey!
Jim