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on the Internet for over 30 years! and not clogged down with Ads! Again, thanks! | | | | Joined: Sep 2015 Posts: 78 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Sep 2015 Posts: 78 | i have had my 1950 3100 Chevy for over 20 years and I can usually restart it. Fire or gas.. There was no spark to the no.1 plug but fire to the distributor. I had installed a Pertronix electronic ignition last February. I was in a bad location and had to call for a tow truck. I assumed that my ICM was the culprit. That's just 6 months since I installed the Pertronix 1168LS. I'm interested in comments. I need to correct this and try to avoid a repeat.
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| | | | | Joined: Sep 2015 Posts: 78 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Sep 2015 Posts: 78 | lThe engine is a stock 216 and the distributor is a Delco-Remy Model - eerial 1112362-2L20. The coil is a Pertronix 3.0 ohm part # 40511. | | | | | Joined: Nov 2021 Posts: 1,394 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Nov 2021 Posts: 1,394 | If there is fire to the distributor but not to No. 1 you need to look at the parts that connect the fire in to the fire out (distributor cap and rotor). Assuming (never a really good thing) that the rotor is actually rotating seem likely to be a rotor problem but I am not familiar with the Pertronix system so I may be missing something. | | | | | Joined: Feb 2019 Posts: 4,502 AD Addict & Tinkerer | | AD Addict & Tinkerer Joined: Feb 2019 Posts: 4,502 | The first thing I would do is eliminate the Petronix and reinstall the points. There have been many ‘bolters that have installed Petronix systems with mixed results. Going back to stock will eliminate that variable. If your engine starts, you’ll know the culprit.
Phil Moderator, The Engine Shop, Interiors and Project Journals1952 Chevrolet 3100, Three on the Tree, 4:11 torque tube Updated to: ‘59 235 w/hydraulic lifters, 12v w/alternator, HEI, PCV and Power front Disc BrakesProject JournalsStovebolt Gallery Forum | | | | | Joined: Oct 2021 Posts: 6,928 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2021 Posts: 6,928 | Yes, get rid of the Pertonix. Every vehicle I own runs on breaker points with the exception of the 70s Ford trucks. They're all I drive and points have NEVER let me down in my entire life. GM HEI died on my '72 Monte Carlo a long time ago.
But ya, if you are getting the correct spark and voltage to the dizzy top, either the cap or rotor, or both are bad. Don't go by looks, either. Had the same problem on a '36 Auburn. All parts looked perfect. Couldn't understand it but a new cap fixed the problem.
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy)
1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe |1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1969 Pontiac GTO (The Dishpit) I 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
| | | | | Joined: Oct 2021 Posts: 6,928 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Oct 2021 Posts: 6,928 | If you want electronic ignition, convert your original dizzy to GM HEI. Parts are cheap, easy to find, and more reliable. Having said that, keep a set of points in the glove box so you can quickly convert to breaker point ignition on the side of the road when this happens again.
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy)
1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe |1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1969 Pontiac GTO (The Dishpit) I 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
| | | | | Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,983 Sir Searchalot | | Sir Searchalot Joined: May 2005 Posts: 8,983 | As some have said, it's probably the pertronix unit. Unless a catastrophic mechanical timing failure. Re-Read the instructions, cautions and check the gap and revisit the install procedure before jumping out the window. It's not the coil. There is something about using te old condenser mentioned. If the points condenser is in the Pertronix circuit and is used by the circuit, that is a weak spot. Leaving key on will burn out some generations of Pertronix. https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0247/6913/4628/files/1168LS.pdf
Right is right, even if everyone is against it, and wrong is wrong, even if everyone is for it. - William Penn | | | | | Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 108 'Bolter | | 'Bolter Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 108 | Make sure that you have the correct ground and voltages at each of the trouble shooting steps that you get from Pertronix. | | |
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