I recently went though a bunch of work that started out just to replace a U-Joint. As one thing leads to another, I now have the trans out on the floor, about to replace my clutch and pressure plate.
When I loosened the bolts and let the pressure plate drop, this washer fell out. It’s slightly concaved and has a “felt looking” backing. The hole fits perfectly over the end of the transmission shaft. Any idea what it’s for? Which way it should go when I put it all back together?
Last edited by Dltalfa; 07/09/202311:24 PM.
Care taker of a 1946 1/2 ton. Pretty much period correct original. Danny T, from B’ham, Al
It doesn't belong in there. It's probably some ones idea of a seal if they may have had excess oil on the clutch. There is no front seal in those transmissions. They rely on an oil slinger which is part of the nut that retains the front bearing. There is a close tolerance between the inside of the bearing retainer that the release bearing slides on and the slinger. If both are damaged or excessively worn oil will move out instead of returning to the case. Fred
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If both are damaged or excessively worn oil will move out instead of returning to the case.
... or if you park your truck on a severe front end down hill.
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It doesn't belong in there. It's probably some ones idea of a seal if they may have had excess oil on the clutch. There is no front seal in those transmissions. They rely on an oil slinger which is part of the nut that retains the front bearing. There is a close tolerance between the inside of the bearing retainer that the release bearing slides on and the slinger. If both are damaged or excessively worn oil will move out instead of returning to the case. Fred
Thanks rfs56trk. I knew I had never seen a washer inside a clutch assembly before. But I don’t see how this would have been an oil leak deterrent. It will only slide over the very end of the transmission output shaft, the part that goes inside the pilot bushing. There is no oil in that area, is there?
Care taker of a 1946 1/2 ton. Pretty much period correct original. Danny T, from B’ham, Al
Was there a pilot bushing you removed? Don't see it the pile of parts?
I haven’t removed the pilot bushing yet. I’m considering removing the flywheel to have it resurfaced᠁..although it doesn’t show any signs of heat check or discoloration. In fact, the clutch disk and pressure plate look fairly new, with now visible wear. I’m thinking it all might have been done in the recent past᠁..or at least with minimal miles since replacement.
Anyway, I plan on removing the pilot bushing when I remove the flywheel. I just ran out of time when I removed the clutch, (weekend warrior you know).
Last edited by Dltalfa; 07/10/202311:24 PM.
Care taker of a 1946 1/2 ton. Pretty much period correct original. Danny T, from B’ham, Al
A picture of the back end of the crankshaft would be helpfully.
I’ll grab a picture of the end of the crankshaft as soon as I can get back in the garage. But it doesn’t show any unusual signs or anything that would relate to the washer᠁.at least not visually.
Care taker of a 1946 1/2 ton. Pretty much period correct original. Danny T, from B’ham, Al
I put a sealed bearing on the front of my 39 3-speed transmission when I rebuilt it. I removed the inside seal of the bearing so the bearing would still be lubricated from the trans side. Curious, did you finally move the rearend/torque tube back to get the trans out?
I put a sealed bearing on the front of my 39 3-speed transmission when I rebuilt it. I removed the inside seal of the bearing so the bearing would still be lubricated from the trans side. Curious, did you finally move the rearend/torque tube back to get the trans out?
Rick
yes, I ended up having to remove the rearend U-Bolts and roll the whole torque tube back to get the u-joint and transmission separated. Luckily, the rubber flex line on the brakes had enough slack so I didn’t have to dismantle the brake line. You never know what you’re going to find in these old vehicles.
I sure appreciate everyone’s help and input!!
Care taker of a 1946 1/2 ton. Pretty much period correct original. Danny T, from B’ham, Al
They fly wheel visually looks great. No scaring and no signs of heat checking, (the rainbow color effect). It looks good, visually. However, I was always told to spend the extra few dollars and always replace the clutch, pressure plate, throw out bearing, pilot bushing and turn the flywheel EVERY time you pull a transmission.
Care taker of a 1946 1/2 ton. Pretty much period correct original. Danny T, from B’ham, Al
You have a very beautiful clutch fork Mine are much more worn out than the one you posted a photo of I’ve been hoping to one day weld one of mine up and machine it to the proper size finger where it rides on the release bearing. I’m so envious -s
You have a very beautiful clutch fork Mine are much more worn out than the one you posted a photo of I’ve been hoping to one day weld one of mine up and machine it to the proper size finger where it rides on the release bearing. I’m so envious -s
LOL..sounds like a weird Car Nuts pickup line, “has anyone ever told you, you have a very beautiful clutch fork”? 🤣
Care taker of a 1946 1/2 ton. Pretty much period correct original. Danny T, from B’ham, Al
