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#1498807 04/30/2023 7:00 AM
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Hello i am thinking of changing the non syncro 1934 gearbox for a gearbox from a 1948 chev i am told they should just bolt straight in and the 48 box would have syncro in 2nd 3rd and 4 gear my question is what is the make and model of the gearbox for the 48


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I believe the early gearbox has a slightly smaller bolt pattern, bottom right not offset like 420 has. Drill new mounting hole in bellhousing. Verify first of course.

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Hy psmith1954, the 1948 four speed truck transmission is referred to as the SM420. I am a little confused, (situation normal) are you intending to try and install this transmission in a 1934 chassis? As Ed has said the earlier transmissions had a different bolt pattern and the bellhousing may require modification to allow the SM420 to bolt up. More research is required, good luck.

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psmith1954,

Another impediment to using the SM420 transmission in place of the '34 non-synchro "crashbox" is the difference in the front main shaft bearing retainers used on the different transmissions.

Your original '34 will have an opening in the bell housing for the 4-3/16" diameter front main bearing retainer on the "crashbox".

The SM420 front main bearing retainer has a larger 4-11/16" diameter bearing retainer that won't just slide into place into the existing bell housing hole without opening that up to match the larger diameter.

If you do go the route of opening up that hole, extra attention is needed to make sure the change keeps the SM420 input shaft alignment correct to the crankshaft bearing where you input shaft will ride.

While others come along to chime in with more info, check out this earlier conversation about the conversion you are talking about.

Dan


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thanks for the info everyone ill let you know how it goes


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