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Forty9 #1497326 04/20/2023 2:02 PM
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Based on every other parameter being equal, line my wife’s 2016 Dodge Durango R/T 5.7 Hemi which has run on real gas since the day we brought it home with 7 miles on it, next to a 2016 Dodge Durango R/T 5.7 Hemi that has run on ethanol since new and I guarantee hers will smoke the ethanol run car. Probably by 4-5 car lengths. And get better fuel mileage doing it. This observation is based on personal experience not something read in a blog or magazine. Bring it on!


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You can think of ethanol as a hydrocarbon that is already partially oxidized (C2H6O). It's like it has already started its trip across the oxidation table to CO2. I think the MPG you get from the 10% ethanol stuff must be lower than a pure hydrocarbon gasoline under the same conditions.

That said, I use the ethanol containing gasoline and don't worry about it.


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Of course the mileage will be lower. There is less stored energy in ethanol than there is in the same volume of gasoline. It is physically impossible for fuel economy not to be diminished when using ethanol fuel.


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You agree but I'd say chemically impossible.


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Originally Posted by John Milliman
For reasons I won't go into, I once had access to free AvGas (100 Octane Low Lead). The '49 Chevrolet (235 at the time) ran like crap on it -- didn't like it at all. But ... the '51 Farmall M came ALIVE on that stuff! It would get down and BARK and pull a 2-bottom plow through hard pan like a hot knife through butter. I've heard that AvGas is strictly verboten at the tractor pulls around here ...;)

Anyway, I get the higher octane non ethanol primarily for the boat and the little engines. My friend Milt -- our local Stihl dealer, told me long ago only to use 89 octane non-ethanol in the chainsaws and other Stihl and Kohler engines.

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That is where the "octane selector" on the distributor comes into play. It is precisely why it is there. Back when these trucks were new, there was a vast difference in octane from gas station to gas station, or even in different batches from week to week at the same gas station. Their octane standards were not strictly followed. I know that you no longer have the original dipper 235 in Charlie anymore, but I would bet it would have run a lot better on the AVGas by tweaking the timing with octane selector.


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Good point, Carl. Never thought of that...


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