Hello All, been lurking on the various GM forums since picking up (no pun intended) a '66 C 10 short stepside pickup in Dec '21.
My wife & I own a small mom & pop warehouse & out door storage business. Thru that business I received title to an old abandoned RV that happened to have a 454 engine. Naturally, my first thoughts were "I need an old truck to put this engine in".
Back in the 60's & early 70's I was a real gearhead, but somehow I got sidetracked into motorcycling. Spent the last 40 yrs doing everything from racing motocross to tour cross country coast to coast. Now that I'm of a "certain age" aka old, the bikes are taking a back seat and my 66 Stepside is front & center.
I grew up working & hanging out in my fathers garage business in the 50's & 60's. I learned a lot , but the skills I'm seeing on the various old car & truck forums, including this one, is truly humbling. I've spent my whole working life refurbishing old(er) trucks & equipment to put back in service for the self-employed business's I've owned, but wasn't prepared for the professional level work that is being done in backyard garages & even just backyards.
I wish I'd have studied these restoration threads before starting my project. But, I'm here now & hope to learn a lot & maybe make a contribution now & then.
RB
Edit by Peggy M . 8.3.23: RB started in the Welcome Centre and moved up to the DITY Gallery in just a few months. He's done such a great job with his "story," and such detail, his "story" was really a resto-blog. So, we asked if we could move to the Project Journal area. And here it is!
We believe there are plenty of folks who would like see what he's been doing. And judging from the 2,357 views in less than six months, we think his C-10 saga is in the perfect spot for sharing now!
We kept a few of the greetings from the WC but for those who are looking for ACTION, it starts here a little further down this thread.
Soak it up!
Last edited by Phak1; 06/07/20251:25 PM. Reason: Added before/after pictures
1966 C-10 Short Stepside HiPo Step-by-step ~ and on-going resto build in the Project Journals
RLB has dropped a note in the Southern Bolters Forum in the thread looking for the Florida truck folks.
~ Peggy M 1949 Chevrolet 3804 "Charlie" - The Stovebolt Flagship In the Gallery || In the Gallery Forum "I didn't see this one coming. I don't see much of anything coming. :-O"
Pics? My inlaws have a place in Polk County. About as far away from either coast as can be, ha. Where ya from? Id like to relocate in that direction. Currently from Pennsylvania. The land of taxes, lol. Hope to see ya around.
Welcome RLB from a fellow self-acknowledged "gearhead" - LOL!
You are right in the midst of a whole passel of folks just like yourself. Previous knowledge will come back to you the more time you spend with your truck. The "skill" side comes with getting in there and doing the hands on stuff, but am sure you already know that from your own other experiences.
Glad you decided to join us in our madness!
Looking forward to seeing and sharing conversation in the other forums!
Dan
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~ Dan 1951 Chevy 3 window 3100 Follow this story in the DITY Gallery "My Grandpa Carl's Truck and How it Became Mine" 1966 Chevelle (Wife's Hot Rod) | 2013 Chevy Silverado (Current daily driver) US Army MSG Retired (1977-1998) | Com Fac Maint Lead Tech Retired (1998-2021)
My wife & I own a small warehouse/ outdoor storage business. A few years back a tenant gave me the keys & title to his RV that he had quit paying for rental space. Thinking it was an old Chrysler chassis, I was surprised to find it had a Generation V 454 engine First thought I had was: I need an old Chevy pickup to put this engine in After several years off casually looking, I stumbled on this 66 C10 in Joblin, Mo via eBay. Four days & $2500 & it was in my new shop in Florida TBC
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1966 C-10 Short Stepside HiPo Step-by-step ~ and on-going resto build in the Project Journals
The Plan for the truck was to keep it looking stock but install the 454 with a m20 4 spd. Using as many GM parts as possible. Pretty much like we would have done back in the 60’s or 70’s. I decided to first get the cab & chassis more or less squared away before starting on the engine /drivetrain First order of business was to strip the cab & remove it & bed from the frame. I had a 2nd generation sandblasting guy that I’d used years ago. He was happy to help me out. First the cab then the frame.
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1966 C-10 Short Stepside HiPo Step-by-step ~ and on-going resto build in the Project Journals
Correction: I had the frame sand basted first, then the cab. Also, just to be clear, I picked up the C 10 in Dec '21. Started work in early Jan '22. So I'm posting off photos I've taken along the way & my memory (which may or may not be reliable)
While the cab was at the SB 'ers. I Por 15 rustproofed the frame. Brushed it on rather than sprayed, but it flowed out very nicely. While looking the chassis over, I realized how rough life had been for this 'ol C10. The one of the front lower control arms was bent & one of the rear trailing arms was broken in half, minus about 10% that was holding it together.
I'm just guessing here. The title for this truck indicated it was last purchased by someone in Kansas in 1978. I think t lived out it's former life as a farm truck. After it's usefulness as a work truck was finished, I believe the farmers kids finished it off by off-roading it in the woods & fields surrounding their farm. I'm not sure how it could've gotten in such rough shape underneath otherwise.
I ordered both new re-pop trailing arms complete with bushings & a complete re-pop front suspension & steering linkage kit.
I installed the trailing arms while waiting for the cab, but decided to hold off on the front suspension installation.
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1966 C-10 Short Stepside HiPo Step-by-step ~ and on-going resto build in the Project Journals
After getting cab back from the SB'ers, I had mixed feelings. On one hand I was happy to have old the old rust, dirt , corn husk, seeds , birds nests, rodents nest etc gone. OTOH, I was disappointed to find rust in places that I thought were OK. But, it was what it was, so I started in on it.
Maybe some have noticed that I was starting work in a brand new building with no tools or shop equipment other than some hand tools & a few power tools left over from my former life. After thinking it over, I decided my priority (at age 76) was to have an old 454 powered C 10 I could ride around in & tinker with, not to have a fully equipped shop for old truck restorations. With that settled , I started in.
First off, I dug out an old pair of iron saw horses that were left over from my family's former garage business. The story goes that my father bought them from a iron works & fabrication shop in Balto Md that went broke in 1933 (During the great depression) I used them along with a couple of yellow pine 2x12's to hold the cab up off the floor & also used my over head lifting device to help steady it as well. Once I was satisfied with the safety aspects, I started in on the drivers side . Well, actually I put a quick coat of primer on the whole cab. The salt air enviroment here in coastal Florida is brutal on bare metal.
I'm posting a few photos from the drivers side. After looking at my photos again, apparently I started work on left side of cab before taking it to the sandblaster's. Once I started cutting rusted metal out , I decided to sandblast it before going any further.
1966 C-10 Short Stepside HiPo Step-by-step ~ and on-going resto build in the Project Journals
Well Rob, you certainly have a good attitude there. "With that settled, I started in."
I did notice the clean shop (admittedly, some of us do! ). That was a nice set of images in the earlier posts, plus some great explanation and story. Now, the recent rust ones! Oh my. That's sad to even see!! But, I get you'll get it done!!
Keep us posted and know that the gang is here to help with questions.
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~ Peggy M 1949 Chevrolet 3804 "Charlie" - The Stovebolt Flagship In the Gallery || In the Gallery Forum "I didn't see this one coming. I don't see much of anything coming. :-O"
It looks like you are going like gang busters in make progress on your project!
Very interested in seeing more as you can share. Of course all the pictures you can muster are always greatly appreciated!
Dan
~ Dan 1951 Chevy 3 window 3100 Follow this story in the DITY Gallery "My Grandpa Carl's Truck and How it Became Mine" 1966 Chevelle (Wife's Hot Rod) | 2013 Chevy Silverado (Current daily driver) US Army MSG Retired (1977-1998) | Com Fac Maint Lead Tech Retired (1998-2021)
Thanks, guys. Last couple wks have been busy with family visits & other stuff. I'll try to post more regularly now.
As I said, sandblasting an already rusty cab revealed even more rust damage than I knew about. I used a 4 1/2 in grinder with HF cutting disc and began triming back the rust damaged parts. As I recall, on the drivers side that included the lower front door post, floor pan up into the lower firewall, lower kicker panel, rear cab corner & inner & outer rocker panel. Some rust damage extended pass the limits of my new patch panels, for those extended pieces I used sheet metal made my own patch extensions. Also front & rear floor braces were gone as well.
I know my methods are not the current way of doing things, but I was determined to use my existing experience (from years past) along with tools I already owned to keep my project moving forward. Here, I refering to my cutting away of the rusted metal to allow for approx. 1 " overlap of the new panel (whenever possible) This allowed me to use self tapping screws to bolt every thing together tightly.
Apparently I didn't take photos of the cut away, but the photos of the installed patch panels prior to welding should show my results.
Ment to show brazed panels in next post. Since, as I said earlier, I wanted to keep job moving along with skills & equipment I already possessed, I chose to braze panels in. I already had a torch & full bottles of gas & air leftover from the old days. After brazing, top & bottom, I removed metal screws & brazed up the screw holes.
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1966 C-10 Short Stepside HiPo Step-by-step ~ and on-going resto build in the Project Journals
The left side door was not in too bad of shape, so I was able to re install it to double check fit & gaps prior to brazing new panels in place. Gaps were not perfect, but close enough.
My apologies for being a little disorganized with the photos & narrative. I took photos with my phone a year & half ago for my own record. Now I'm having a little trouble sorting them out . Hopefully, I'll get better at it as I go. As an example, I was certain I had a photo of the left door fitted prior brazing , but now can't find it.
1966 C-10 Short Stepside HiPo Step-by-step ~ and on-going resto build in the Project Journals
Thanks for the continued updates and picture postings. We all very much understand when family visits and other stuff can take over as the priority. Your pictures show great progress and explanations confirming checking/verifying door openings and such fitment before full welding (brazing in your case) are a testament to your knowledge and skills.
Keep up the great work and will continue to follow your projects progress!
Dan
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~ Dan 1951 Chevy 3 window 3100 Follow this story in the DITY Gallery "My Grandpa Carl's Truck and How it Became Mine" 1966 Chevelle (Wife's Hot Rod) | 2013 Chevy Silverado (Current daily driver) US Army MSG Retired (1977-1998) | Com Fac Maint Lead Tech Retired (1998-2021)
Hopefully, a few more photos of the left side will show up below lol.
After brazing up the drivers side, I switched over to the passenger side. That was pretty much a re-run of the drivers side. A few photos before I started cutting out the rust. The photos don't show it but the right side front & rear floor braces are completely gone as well.
1966 C-10 Short Stepside HiPo Step-by-step ~ and on-going resto build in the Project Journals
That's a bunch of work to resurrect that cab, but you are certainly getting it done. I've seen Swiss cheese with less holes than some of the cab sections you are replacing - haha!
Keep on it sir. You are becoming quite skilled with adding photos. Due to a glitch in the UBB software that the site runs on, if you don't add your own captions to new pics, the caption from previous pictures carries over to your newer pics (you can see the caption along bottom center of the pics when displayed). You can take one more step to make your pics better by adding "captions" when you upload them via the Attachment Manager.
When you can, maybe take a look at this post by Peggy M as it gives you everything you may want to know about posting pictures. If you look at the lower section of the first post by Peggy, you will see an "EDIT" by fellow member and moderator klhansen (Kevin) that has a link to a short video he created that gives you what you need to do to add a caption to the photos in the easiest way possible.
After watching the video, give the steps a try for your next pictures (you need to do the steps for each picture as you add them) and the captions you add will match the content of your picture.
Looking forward to seeing more!
Dan
~ Dan 1951 Chevy 3 window 3100 Follow this story in the DITY Gallery "My Grandpa Carl's Truck and How it Became Mine" 1966 Chevelle (Wife's Hot Rod) | 2013 Chevy Silverado (Current daily driver) US Army MSG Retired (1977-1998) | Com Fac Maint Lead Tech Retired (1998-2021)
Apparently, I didn't take photos of the right floor rebuild, but as I said earlier, it was pretty much a repeat of the left side. With one glaring exception. On the left side I had a decent door for trial fitting prior to brazing everything in place. The original right side door was not re-usable or reparable. When it had been damaged prior to my owning it, the inner panel that supports the door hinges was badly damaged. At the time, new re-production doors were pushing $1,000 if you included freight & sales taxes. In retrospect, that might of been my best bet. After checking Craigslist daily, I found a door that was rough but fixable for 50 bucks.
After sandblasting the door, I painted insides with rust prevention black paint, installed new outer skin & lower inside panel, brazed it up, did necessary grinding & sanding with body filler & shot it with two coats of Viper red . I admit my painting is a little rusty, like the rest of my skills. OTOH, painting as I go gives the metal protection & gets paint in places the might not have gotten it if door were mounted in place.
Now I had a usable door for test fitting my right side of cab floor, rocker, cab corner, floor braces, etc prior to brazing them up.
1966 C-10 Short Stepside HiPo Step-by-step ~ and on-going resto build in the Project Journals
Thanks for the great pics, including the captions (woohoo!) and filling in the details on the right door.
Dan
~ Dan 1951 Chevy 3 window 3100 Follow this story in the DITY Gallery "My Grandpa Carl's Truck and How it Became Mine" 1966 Chevelle (Wife's Hot Rod) | 2013 Chevy Silverado (Current daily driver) US Army MSG Retired (1977-1998) | Com Fac Maint Lead Tech Retired (1998-2021)
That before and after pix sequence of the door is amazing. You are doing a remarkable job here.
The captions help a lot here!!
Thanks thanks!
(I'm thinking you have stepped up from DITY to Project Journal material. Way to go Rob!)
~ Peggy M 1949 Chevrolet 3804 "Charlie" - The Stovebolt Flagship In the Gallery || In the Gallery Forum "I didn't see this one coming. I don't see much of anything coming. :-O"
If it's all the same to you, I'd rather just stay here in the DIY section. The projects & builds section has some really nice work that is a step (or two) above what I'm doing. I'm just a former truck & equipment mechanic bringing a truck back to life much like I'd have done years ago. A trip down memory lane, so to speak.
Having said that, I trust your judgement on what's best for the SB.com forum. Thank you for being the glue that holds it all together.
1966 C-10 Short Stepside HiPo Step-by-step ~ and on-going resto build in the Project Journals
After trial fitting of the right hand door, I finished brazing new patch panels, used sanding disc on 4 1/2 in grinder to removed old flux & excess material, used seam sealer on all joints or seams & primed.
Next, I started finishing the cab corners. Using the 4 1/2in grinder with sanding disc, I removed all excess brass & flux from brazing & roughed up metal surfaces prior to using body filler to smooth transition from new cab corners to existing metal. The photos I'm posting will look like a lot of excess bondo but ends up being just a paper thin covering. The goal is to have a perfect feather edge where the filler meets the metal, with no dips or high spots visible when painted.
Next step in finishing the filler is priming & sanding to fill any imperfections or pin holes in the filler prior to final sealer/primer & painting.
1966 C-10 Short Stepside HiPo Step-by-step ~ and on-going resto build in the Project Journals
I skipped a step in the process. Once the cab floor & associated parts were installed, cab was set back on the frame. I wasn't concerned about the rear cab mount location, but the front mounting area had received a lot of work with potential for mis -alignment . Thankfully, all lined up well. I used the newer style polyurethane bushings. Since then I've read some are complaining they ride too harshly & help transmit noise. They're in there now, so I'll just keep the bolts tight & see what happens.
I have to admit, it felt good to have cab mounted on frame again. Felt like I'd finished phase one. Only 999 more phases to go LOL.
1966 C-10 Short Stepside HiPo Step-by-step ~ and on-going resto build in the Project Journals
After placing cab on frame & finishing up the body work, I decided to paint the bare cab. Back in my working life, we always painted our trucks red. Inside & out. While I really like the original Chevy green, tradition won out. Paint is Viper Red. Acrylic enamel w/ hardner added .
First, I had one of those surprises that sandblasting the cab uncovered. On the '60/'66 models that have been sitting for a long period time mice crawl up into the eyebrow section of the roof (That area directly above the windshield) & build a nest. Then they urinate in the area next to the nest & cause rust in that area. When I picked the truck up in Joplin Mo, the seller pointed out that those areas were not rusted out on this truck. Sort of a bonus point, I guess. And, in fact, it did look good. However, the sandblasting said otherwise. I had rust through areas on both sides of the windshield & on the inside behind the passenger sun visor area. All three areas were about the size of silver dollar + or - I cut the offending rust out used some sheet metal I had to bend patches to match the cut out areas. Luckily for me, the flange that the windshield rubber connects to was not damaged. After brazing the patches in place, areas were leveled out as well as I could then I used body filler to finish prior to painting. Sorry, I didn't think to take phots of this repair. Also, while rust was cut out, I used those openings to use high pressure air to blow out any mice nest or other debris from that area. For those not familiar with the 60 thru 66 models, the headliner area is a metal panel, making the area between the roof & inside ceiling impossible to get to.
The new paint job revealed two things to me. Number one was it was too much red. I did not like the red interior. Number two was that I had good size but very shallow dent in the top of the dash. Near the left side defrost vent & radio speaker area. I had just not noticed it before but the shinny new red paint made it stand out.
1966 C-10 Short Stepside HiPo Step-by-step ~ and on-going resto build in the Project Journals
Nice.... I was looking at the pix and was distressed that you did all that work, but didn't fix what appeared to be a "crushed" cab roof!!! Then I saw it was paper!
Another quality post. Real Trucks Rattle HELP! The Paranoids are after me!
Rob is doing such a great job with truck and giving us a very detailed blow-by-blow.
~ Peggy M 1949 Chevrolet 3804 "Charlie" - The Stovebolt Flagship In the Gallery || In the Gallery Forum "I didn't see this one coming. I don't see much of anything coming. :-O"
Hey! I'm not above screwing up now & then. But not this time. I'm saving the roof for later on. Even though guys make fun of me, I've always used yesterday's newsprint for taping off paint jobs. That's difficult to do in this age of internet news. That's OK though, I don't plan on doing any more paint jobs after I finish this one. LOL
Somewhere along the way, via CraigsList, I found a really nice bench seat that had just recently been completely redone. Black vinyl with grey cloth inserts. It was in Ft Meyers Fl, which meant it was a full day's drive round trip. The seller had a really nice '72 that he decided to install bucket seats in. We pulled the seat right out of his truck. The '72 seat doesn't fold forward like the '66 but otherwise s a bolt in swap.
It also, since I didn't like my red interior, gave me the new color combo for the interior. Slate grey with flat black dash & kicker panels.
I fixed the dents in the dash that I mentioned in the previous post. It was pretty straight forward, but I was happy that the windshield had not been installed yet. Gave me much better access to the top of the dash.
At this point in time, I'm trying to get as many parts up off the floor & on the truck due to some new interior walls going up in my shop. As it turned out, I, along with my neighbor & my wife ended up doing the whole job ourselves. Due to the building boom & shortage of help no contractors even returned our calls. The construction project pretty much shut down the truck work for about 5 months.
When construction is complete, I'll have gone from a 2400 ft shop to 800 ft. Still plenty of room plus now I've got income from the other two 800 ft bays I'm renting out.
1966 C-10 Short Stepside HiPo Step-by-step ~ and on-going resto build in the Project Journals
I thought the same thing! He's worried about the dash and the roof is caved in?
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The rumpled roof line was a tad confusing to me too until I looked closer (through my tri-focals - lol) to see the newsprint peeking through the red paint.
Thanks to Rob for coming back and clearing up that little eye challenge - haha!
Dan
~ Dan 1951 Chevy 3 window 3100 Follow this story in the DITY Gallery "My Grandpa Carl's Truck and How it Became Mine" 1966 Chevelle (Wife's Hot Rod) | 2013 Chevy Silverado (Current daily driver) US Army MSG Retired (1977-1998) | Com Fac Maint Lead Tech Retired (1998-2021)
Thanks Rich. I like it too. More importantly, the Missus does as well
After 5 months of framing metal studs , hanging 5/8 sheetrock, & caulking & painting, not to mention dealing with building inspectors, I was happy to start work again on "That darn truck" as my wife calls it.
First I mounted a Cardone rebuild 68/72 power steering box, The 68/72 box seemed to be a popular choice on the old truck forums, so I went with it. It's not a bolt on swap though. Copying what I found on the 'net, I heated & hammered in a curve in the side of the frame rail similar to the 68/72 frame. Also the new box has 4 bolts thru the frame rather than the 3 bolts that the 66 manual box has. One of the original holes lined up with one of the new p/s box . I then marked & drilled the other three. Also, the later model frame comes with the bolt holes protruding outward about a 1/8th inch. Helping to off set the box from the frame rail slightly. I used double grade 8 flat washers to replicate the protrutions. It looked like it belonged there when finished. A well respected member on another Chevy truck forum sells an adaptor bracket to do the same job. It seems a lot of guys use that bracket & make it a bolt on job. But I'm happy with the way mine turned out.
Next, I stripped the front suspension so I could install the complete new reproduction suspension kit, including big block rated coil springs, I had waiting. Also installed new standard ride height , 6 lug, spindles & disc brake conversion. New after market front swap bar too. All straight forward remove & replace , except the sway bar took a little bit of drilling & fitting. Also, the idler arm that is listed in most parts books is not the correct one for the '66 C10. I found a NOS item on Ebay.
Next in line was a new Ididit tilt , no shifter, unpainted steering column my daughter & grand daughters had given me for the previous Christmas. Preet straight forward nstall . I did use the old original '66 lower shaft that connects the steering column to the rag joint. I shouldv'e used a later model, colapsible shaft, but like the steering box mod, I had all the stuff on hand to get 'er done. As opposed to ordering more stuff online & the bills that go with it.
Treated my self to a Grant 15" steering wheel to top it off.
Sorry, not too many photos. Mostly of the finished product.
Next up is starting on the engine & transmission
1966 C-10 Short Stepside HiPo Step-by-step ~ and on-going resto build in the Project Journals
My goodness gracious. Everything is so clean and purrrrdie. That dash looks amazing. The gauges look so classy. Wonderful chrome on the steering wheel and the shift rods. I really like it!
Thanks for all the details!
~ Peggy M 1949 Chevrolet 3804 "Charlie" - The Stovebolt Flagship In the Gallery || In the Gallery Forum "I didn't see this one coming. I don't see much of anything coming. :-O"
Thanks Peggy I think the shift rods you mention are the turn signal lever & the tilt steering wheel lever. Shifter is a Hurst floor shifter connected to a mid '60's wide ratio Muncie 4 spd This model steering column came with no shift levers, it's especially for trucks with floor shift transmissions.
1966 C-10 Short Stepside HiPo Step-by-step ~ and on-going resto build in the Project Journals
I decided the C10 was finally ready for an engine & transmission. As I said at the beginning of this thread, I had acquired an old RV with a 454 engine A '92 model, which meant it was a Generation V 7.4L/454 cu in one ton truck engine. The up side to the Gen V eng is the one piece rear main seal . The downside is no provision for mechanical fuel pump or boss on left side of block for mechanical clutch linkage. Most hot rodders do not like the small (peanut) port heads that came on this model. But the internet reports I've read say they make good low to mid range power, which is perfect for my application. My goal is to have a smooth, lively powerplant that pulls good vacuum at idle & runs well from idle to 5000/5200 rpm. In short I wanted good low end torque with decent, usable hp.
To help achieve this, I've done away with the TBI & installed a Weiand 8122 aluminum intake w/a Edelbrock 750 cfm carb. Removing the TBI required a different distributor as well. For this, I used a Jegs (house brand) R2R (ready to run) unit. This is an electronic unit, but uses a standard 40,000 volt coil rather than a separate ECM. Also, it has small dia distributor cap which really helps firewall clearance when installing the BBC in a"66 C10. Especially when using the stock "66 rear motor mounts.
Due to the low zinc content of today's mainstream engine oil's, I read a lot of reports of wiped cams from guys who had installed high performance flat tappet cams in the 454. My Gen V engine came with the flat tappet cam, but the Gen VI came with a roller cam. Gm sold (up to just recently) a Gen VI 454 high output (425 hp@ 5200 rpm) crate engine . I managed to find a new take out HO roller cam from a hi performance Chevy dealer online (Pace Chevrolet) for half price. The Gen V cant use the Gen VI roller lifters, but I managed to find a set of Morel street rollers (up to 6000 rpm) on year end clearance, I could use the Gen Vi HO pushrods , Pace had a set of those on sale as well. I used Comp Cam rotater eliminators, CompCam retainers & CompCam.050 off set locks. It only took a minute or so to type the above, but took about a month of research & then measuring of everything. This cam was about the most hi performance I could've used without cutting the valve reliefs in the pistons & probably machining the tops of the valve guides.
Since the engine ran so well when I had it running in the RV (And since I was already in sticker shock at my monthly credit card bills) I was determined to not dis-assemble the eng if I didn't have too. I knew if the heads came off the engine due to the cam install, mission creep would set in & the expenses would greatly increase.
A few pics below. Sorry, I didn't take photos of the cam install & valve train upgrades.
To be continued
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1966 C-10 Short Stepside HiPo Step-by-step ~ and on-going resto build in the Project Journals
Once I had the 454 out & cleaned up, I had to figure out how to make it fit the C 10.The goal was to do it as close as possible to how we would have done it in the "old" days.
That meant using as many existing parts & or donor vehicle parts as possible. In typical Chevy fashion (in my experience) the bell housing from the '66 6 cyl bolted up to the 454 just fine which gave me the ability to use the stock rear motor mounts along with the stock clutch linkage(With one exception) However, once Chevy enlarged the BBC to 454 cu in., it began externally balancing the crankshaft assembly via the harmonic balancer & the flywheel. When searching online, I found lots of confusing info regarding which flywheel had the correct balance factor for which crankshaft assembly. But I found no definite answer for my combo. I finally decided to use the KISS method. Since I had what was a '92 one ton engine, I checked on a '92 454 one ton aftermarket flywheel. It was a 168 tooth ring gear as was the 6 cyl flywheel that formerly fit inside my bell housing & after receiving it I saw it had the balance weight in oz stamped on it as the flex plate for the auto trans that came on the 454. I ordered a complete '66 11" clutch kit including pilot bearing & throwout bearing at the same time. It all fit together perfectly.
I had earlier, via CL again, found a good condition mid '60's M20 Muncie 4 spd trans with older, original style Hurst shifter. Since they were about the same yr, the front bearing retainer on the transmission & clutch spline fit perfectly into my bellhousing & clutch. Things were coming together nicely, but I still had a couple hurtles to overcome.
If you recall, I mentioned in the last post that the Gen V did not come with the typical Chevy clutch linkage boss cast in the block. I found another hi performance Chevy dealer in Tx that sold a stainless steel bracket for mid '60s Corvettes that allowed them to use the Gen V or VI engine & retain the stock clutch linkage . I made the correct guess that bracket would work on my mid '60's truck as well. Some minor grinding of excess material & slightly reworking one bolt hole & it fit perfectly.
My next problem was exhaust. The truck manifolds that were on the RV weren't going to work. The left side exited right where my newly figured out clutch linkage had to reside. I reasoned that if mid 60's Corvettes clutch linkage & left side exhaust manifolds co-existed on Vette's, then they would do the same on my C10. I found a pair of mid '60's 427 Vette manifolds on AutoZone for cheap. I knew the top of the frame would need a little clearancing, but so would just about any exhaust I came up with.
Again, sorry. Not many photos of this phase of the project.
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1966 C-10 Short Stepside HiPo Step-by-step ~ and on-going resto build in the Project Journals
In the above photo of trial fitting there's a white chalk mark on the firewall by the valve cover. This area needed a light but firm re-shaping with a 2 lb hammer to allow engine to move rearward enough for rear engine mounts to line up. Also chalk mark is visible on top frame rail . This area needed to be ground out to allow clearance for the 427 exh manifolds. The left side firewall & frame received similar treatment.
Once I had firewall clearance, frame/exhaust manifold clearance, I had to work out the front engine mounts. I ended up using stock replacement '66 front mounts on the original front brackets in the original crossmember & top of frame flange bolt holes. Original brackets were modified to clear the down sweep of the 427 exh & lowered about 1/2 inch to keep carb level .
I like using the original '66 engine mounting system as it provides for a 4 corner mounting system. Keeps the engine as rear mounted as possible & helps with weight bias. Plus, that's how we did it in the old days. LOL.
1966 C-10 Short Stepside HiPo Step-by-step ~ and on-going resto build in the Project Journals
Your progress is amazing and documentation on your build is top notch! Keep up the great work!
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Thanks Phak1. I admit I'm struggling a little to transition from body work to mechanical. The mechanical took so much more time & research, especially working out the roller cam & valve train upgrades but have so little (none, really) photo documentation. But, I'll keep posting & if anyone has a question about anything they can just ask .
I was thinking over the previous post where I outlined how all the original '66 bellhousing, clutch & rear motor mounts plus a '92 one ton stock replacement flywheel all came together perfectly, but forgot to mention one other important part. The '66 starter has a 3 bolt mount that bolts directly to the bell housing. The '92 454 starter is much heavier duty but bolts, via 2 long bolts, directly to the block. I'd read that by doing some grinding & matching that the 2 bolt starter would work with the 66 bellhousing. But I had also read that some guys were having trouble with the starter drive gear not properly engaging the ring gear on the flywheel. We overcame this by installing the nose cone & bendix drive from the '66 starter with the '92 454 starter. Bolted up like a stock '66 & worked perfectly. Sorry, no photos of starter as modified.
Once all fitment issues had been resolved, engine was painted, had intake & distributor installed then installed in truck for (hopefully) the final time. Engine & transmission were installed as one unit. Then 750 Edlebrock & stock 8 mm plug wires, along with the original '92 RV plug wire holders. I was even able to reuse the original '92 sparkplug shields which I believe are visible in the photo below. Anything to save a buck, if possible.
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At this point, I decided to work on being able to start & test run the engine. While I had been very diligent while installing the roller cam & valve train, how it would all work out was an unknown. As shown above, I had the carb, intake, distributor, plug wires & plugs installed at this point.
Next I installed (original) right side inner fender & new, & repop core support. Left all bolts finger tight as this was a mock up to hold my new 4 row Amazon/Chinese radiator in place for the initial engine start up. Re the radiator. I had read on another classic Chevy truck site that there was a very reputable radiator shop near Atlanta Ga . They had top reviews & I had decided to use them for my project. But somehow I stumbled on to this Amazon rad . 4 row & 200 bucks delivered to my door. My thought was I could use this cheap rad to get the truck running & to deal with any unknown build issues that might arise then get the good USA rad when truck was almost ready for the road (In a year or more down the road) TBH, this $ 200 rad looks so well built, I'll probably leave it in till it fails. It fit almost like stock. The upper & lower tanks are slightly thicker to accommodate the 4 row core & is about 1/2 inch wider that original 6 cyl rad. All easy to overcome.
Next problem was the fan. I wanted to use clutch fan from the RV donor, but the fan blades were 19 " 5 blade & were going to interfere with the lower radiator hose. An internet search turned up a set of 17" 6 blade GM fan blades for 1/2 price (They were returned units) They fit my clutch hub & were perfect for my application.
Using exh flanges from the old donor RV exhaust & tubing & mufflers from Advance Auto, I brazed up a temp exhaust system.
Misc items like the ign coil, Temporary fuel line, electric fuel pump, necessary temp wiring, etc had to be worked out. I had planned to re-use the battery box, which bolts to the rad core & the right inner fender, but after soaking it in vinegar realized that it was more rust than steel. So a new battery box was added to the install. I had purchased a new, high cranking amp battery (that fit the C10 battery box)back when I first started the engine in the RV, so that was installed as well.
After filling rad with 50/50 coolant, adding 6 qts 10-30 oil to the crankcase along with new oil filter, engine was ready to fire up. Actually, I had already installed oil & filter & had used an adaptor & electric drill to pre-lube the engine prior to installing the distributor. Sorry, memory needs to go on auto- correct once in a while.
Engine started & ran well after a few minor adjustments. I had hooked up a timing light w/tachometer before starting engine & used it to set initial timing & idle (fairly smooth @ 700 rpm) Temp went to180 F ,oil pressure was 20 psi idling & 40 at higher rpm's.
All was well. Or so I thought. Turns out, I had a couple or three issues to deal with.
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After several 15 (or so) minute run cycles, I checked the oil to see what it looked like. Uh oh, There was water in the crankcase. To make a long story short, I had bought an El Cheapo no name aluminum intake from Ebay that was so poorly made that one of the water ports barely matched the water port in the head. Just looking at the manifold out of the box, it looked great. But after being installed, the residual gasket marks showed that there was only about 1/16 to maybe 1/8th inch of gasket engagement on that water port. Once engine warmed up enough to build up a lb or two of pressure it started leaking coolant & had no where to go except down into the oil pan. I ordered a Weiand 8122 aluminum intake, which is what I really wanted to begin with. Even though it had Cast in China stamped on the underside, it was obvious that someone had been paying attention to quality control on this unit.
Once I had manifold/water leak resolved (Yes, I did change the oil & filter. Left drain plug out for several days so it could drain as well as possible), I had to deal with the carb loading up. Turns out, I needed a fuel pressure regulator. My electric pump only put out about 6 psi, but I ended up with regulator set at 3.5 psi. That may have to increase a little after truck is on the road, but for now 3.5 psi is working well.
Next problem was the ign timing. While setting the initial timing, the timing marks, as shown by the timing light, was very erratic, jumping plus or minus 7 or 8 degrees or so. Up till now I had just set it at a happy medium, but now it was time to get it right. As I said earlier, I used a Jegs house brand R2R distributor. This unit has a really nice billet housing , but basically a copy of a late '50's /60''s GM distributor, except it has an electronic module in place of the old points & condensor. Uses an old style external 40,000 volt ,remote mount coil. Very compact unit that fits well where space is limited, like next to the firewall on a '66 C10 with a BBC installed. The distributor comes with complete instructions for setting up your preferred advance curve including several sets of springs (to establish how quickly timing will advance) and small L brackets (or clips) to set how far timing can advance. Instructions also tells spec's on how distributor is set upright out of the box. Which In my case was perfect. Or so I thought. The kit that came with unit listed 3 sets of springs. One that matched the out of the box setting (that I preferred to use) and two different colored springs for quicker advance curves. Since the springs that were already installed in dist as delivered matched the springs in the kit that I wanted to use, I assumed I didn't need to change them out. But after dealing with the erratic timing, I guessed that the springs in dist were too weak to control the mechanical advance weights & were allowing them to bounce back & forth at low rpm. I installed the desired springs from the kit & discarded the springs that came in the distributor and all was well. Initial timing settled down & I was able to set it at the desired 10 Degrees before TDC. For the record, timing is set at !0 degrees initial & 34 degrees total @ 3000 rpm. May not be perfect, but definitely close. Engine pulls 15 in vacuum @ 700 rpm but jumps to 21/22 @1200. Should work well for power brake booster, vac. advance on distributor, etc.
Sorry, no photos documenting any of the above. I know a post is worthless without photos
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Now that the engine was up & running, I decided my next goal was to get truck running under it's own power & able to be moved in & out of shop if & when needed.
When i installed the bellhousing, prior to installing the M20 4spd, I had cleaned up & re-installed the original clutch/throw out bearing arm. Along with a new , re-pop rubber boot. I had all of the original clutch linkage, but upon closer inspection realized it was all completely worn out. I ordered every part from the clutch arm (In the bellhousing) back up to the clutch petal swing arm/pivot . Luckily all of it was readily available & installed easily. The SD clutch pivot bracket that I posted a pic of earlier worked perfectly. (This bracket was for Gen V & Vi BBC & some LS engines that did not come with the traditional clutch linkage boss cast in the block).
Once clutch was resolved, I tackled the mid '60's Corvette Hurst shifter that came with the M 20 Muncie 4 spd . This shifter had the old, original style shift lever that was a permanent part of the shifter rather than the more modern shifters that had the two bolt mounting system where by the same shifter could be used in different applications by using the correct lever which is held on by two bolts. My shifter had had the original lever cut short & the mid 60's Vette lever grafted (welded) on. I used my trusty 4 1/2" grinder & ground off the welds so I could remove the Vette shift lever. Once that was done, I had about a 3" long stub sticking up to work with, similar to how later model Hurst shifter. I had read internet posts that Hurst made a lever for '66 c10'swith bench seats, but the closest I could find for my application was a 55/57 Chevy car bench seat shift lever. I made a bracket out of 1/4 inch flat steel that bolted up to the stub on my shifter & allowed me to mount the Tri5 shifter far enough forward to clear the bench seat. I wanted shifter to clear the seat in all positions & still be easily reachable. Later on, I'll replace the steel bracket with an aluminum piece, but for now it seems to work well.
However, the shifter extends thru right where the low hump floor board meets the higher hump under the seat. I made a couple brackets that taper down from the high hump under the seat to the low hump & allow me to use a Hurst super boot to seal up the area. It works better that it sounds LOL.
Next I installed thepower steering pump & brackets along with the remote reservoir from the RV donor. Had local hyd hose shop make up the hoses needed.
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While I was dealing with the shifter I had a local shop shortening the original 3 spd drive shaft to accommodate the M 20 Muncie 4 spd. Installed new u joints & front slip yoke as well.
I decided to convert to an outside the cab fuel tank. One of the well known vendors had a 21 gal Blazer fuel tank that they had assembled in a kit to fit the carbureted 66 C10. That's the one I chose to use. With the 454 reputation as a gas hog, I thought the larger tank was what I needed.
It's probably overkill but I installed remote mount spin on fuel filter as well. I 'll probably need to relocate it later on when I retro fit AC.
Up to this point I had not bleed the brakes yet. The pre bent front brake lines I used are OK for now but I'm going to replace them at a later date with a neater looking setup. Rear brakes are not functional yet, but front brakes are working so truck can now be moved in & out of shop or around the yard.
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Next on the to do list is clean out the old seam sealer in the drip edge around the roof. A small flat blade screw driver & a rotary wire brush attachment in a variable speed drill worked well for that job. Then a tube of the same seam sealer I used on the new floor boards. Smooth it out with a small cloth dampened with a little mineral sprits.
I thought I had one dent in the exterior roof over the rear window, but once I started working on it, I found that there were numerous small dents that needed repair. Most likely hail damage from years past. Nothing serious, just time consuming. After a thin skim of body filler, several coats actually, with sanding between coats with a in line sander, it was looking good. Then several coats of hi build primer to fill any scratches or pin holes in the body filler and the roof was ready for sealer primer & 3 coats of Brite White acrylic enamel with hardner.
While I was at it I taped off the left & right out side mirror stems & new replacement mirror heads & shot them as well.
Just as an fyi. These photos are from April 7th 2023. I'll keep posting from my photos on my phone & my memory till I get caught up, then I'll post as I get more done.
1966 C-10 Short Stepside HiPo Step-by-step ~ and on-going resto build in the Project Journals
It's an incredible journal. While I realize the pace of the restoration is quickened by the entries, it still reflects a lot of work in a compressed timeline. Impressive for sure. Thanks for sharing the details and pictures. This archive will endure for other's reference. This is what it is all about. Cheers.
~ HB 1966 Chevrolet K-10 | Ghost: formerly Flappy Fenders | In the Stovebolt Gallery 1962 Chevrolet C10 1962 Suburban
Thanks HB. I know I picked up tidbits of info along the way from random searches, especially when researching info on 454's. Hopefully I might post something that'll help someone else.
Speaking of tidbits of info, I was having trouble with getting my doors to close properly after installing the weather stripping in the door way. It felt like I had a 2x4 wedged in the door jam, on both sides. My brother who's done about 10 full on restorations swears by Steele Rubber Products. Others speak highly of Precision Products. Then there's the '09 Honda Civic 2 dr Coupe units that some swear by. I ended up with the Precision units. I'm not sure who made the first ones I had installed but the Precisions were much better, especially after lubing them with silicone spray. Still not good enough though.
I happened on a C10 thread where some guy had installed aftermarket door latches called Ezi Latch. He swore by them. After a quick internet search, I had a set coming for my truck. Installing them takes a little bit of nerve because you have to cut a good size hole in the door using a template they supply. The second door is much easier. LOL In their instructions, they say their latches will not solve weather strip interference or door adjustment problems. But in my experience, they'll solve a big portion of them.
If 100 percent is the goal, then these Ezi Latches moved me from about 75% to about 95% on my drivers door. The passenger door is a little tougher nut to crack. I went from about 50/60 % to about 75/80 % there. I have the doors adjusted to the cab & fenders pretty well so I'm not moving them again. I've noticed as time goes by, both doors are opening & closing better. I'm thinking I'll just leave the doors shut (unless I'm working inside) & see if the weather strip collapses & conforms to the door over time. I can always address them later on if needed.
The only down side I can see to the Ezi Latches is you lose the ability to lock the door from the inside.
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Since I'd installed a frame mounted fuel tank I needed to do away with the hole left in the side of the cab when the seat tank & filler cap was removed. I cut a patch panel & brazed it in place. Roughed are up good with abrasion disc & smoothed area over with body filler. Primed area with hi build primer to fill any small pin holes or sanding marks.
Much as I hate to say it, I realized that I needed to eat a slice of humble pie at this point. I noticed had a couple of small bubbles developing in the areas where I had brazed in some patch panels . Just a couple small spots, nothing major. I quickly realized I had not completely cleaned the flux from the brazing rod prior to prepping for paint and/or body filler. Just a dumb mistake caused by not being diligent.
I ground down the problem area's , making sure all old flux was cleaned off, prepped area's for re-painting , taped off the glass & the newly painted white roof & shot the cab for the second time. Just to be clear, it had been just over a year since I shot it the first time.
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My C10 didn't have front fenders when I got it . I'd picked up a used pair off CL, but they were so rough I decided against using them. I did stumble upon a new set on sale & snapped them up. They were packaged well & fit perfectly. One side was 100 % damage free & the other was maybe 99%.
I found there was some rust thru on the original grille support that needed patch panels. I cut out the rust with my 4 1/2" grinder w/ HF cutting disc and made up some patches from spare sheet metal. Brazed the patches in, ground them down as well as possible then filled any pin holes with seam sealer. Worked out well.
I also found that grille support had been damaged & repaired on the right side . The grille had been pretty beat up over the years as well. I reworked the old damage repair on the grille support , not perfect but suitable for my needs. The grille needed a little hammer & dolly work, I also removed the brackets that hold the headlight buckets in place by drilling out the rivets that hold them in place. New head light brackets were then installed using 1/8th inch dia screws with flat washers. The new brackets sort of forced the area around the headlight back into the correct shape. Hopefully the accompanying photos will help explain.
After doing a mock up of the new fenders & grille assembly, I removed everything. Then primed & painted my new fenders. Then finished repairing grille assembly & grille. Once all painting was complete ,I assembled fenders, grille support , grille & grille support to core support braces.
Also cleaned up & painted used but straight front bumper I'd found on CL.
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Next up was the hood. It had some damage when I got the truck but not too much. It had been waiting patiently for me to get around to working on it.
The most oblivious damage was a dent in the right front & a very small patch of rust in the same general area. The hood is a double panel here so hammering the dent out was a little tricky. I used several different pieces of scrap steel to wedge in between the inner panel& the dented area to knock out the dent as much as possible. Then the usual grinding & roughening up off the dent & surrounding area & working in some body filler. It took a while but came out looking OK, imo.
There was a small rust area down where the front panel of the hood mated up to the main hood panel which easily cut out & a small patch panel bent to shape & brazed in place.
I thought I had two more small dents near the center of the hood that I needed to address, but as was working them , I realized that I had a few of the same small hail sized dents that I'd found while doing the roof. Again, nothing serious, just added time & a little more material to the job .
After priming the whole hood with several coats of high build primer, including hand sanding each coat, I thought I was ready to paint the exterior side . I was wiping down the hood one last time prior to prepping for paint & on the front panel between the right parking light & the hood latch area I felt what I thought was some dirt or something. Upto this point I had no clue of any trouble spots other than what I've already described. After getting out a small screw driver & started poking around Found a area of soft (rusted) metal that I had not found up to that point. Out came the grinder with the HF cutting disc for more rust cut out & patch panel install. Hopefully photos will give a better idea of the repair.
Also cleaned up the underside of hood & gave it several coats of rust resistant black paint. Also installed new insulator strips between hood braces & outer hood panel.
Seems like a lot of work to save this hood, but new repo hoods are around 1200 bucks plus shipping now days. Even then , there's no guarantee that it'll be damage free when you get it.
1966 C-10 Short Stepside HiPo Step-by-step ~ and on-going resto build in the Project Journals
Nice work and motivation for me as I start my 66 SBSS. What year blazer is the tank for? Looks perfect! Great progress!
Thanks! Re: the gas tank. I don't have my records with me right now, but seem to recall I bought it from CJ Pony on sale. Brothers has a U tube how to video of the same tank. I'm sure a online search for a 21 gal tank for a 66 C10 will give you good results.
RB
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Life has gotten in the way of working on the truck this summer but I did get a little bit done. I wanted to install a 3.08 differential to help a little with Highway cruising rpm’s. Plus the rear housing in the truck when I received it was worn almost thru because of the rear U bolts having been run loose for a long time. Via CL, I found complete 3.08 (non posi) rear from a 69 C10 in SC. The rear had been installed in a 59 pickup which had different spring saddles I ordered in some new 66 saddles & had a neighbor weld them in A few phots below showing the old & the new/used
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I mounted an aftermarket sway bar on the front when I did the front suspension earlier and now have one on the rear as well. Photos below, I hope LOL.
Got the bed loaded up & delivered to my sandblaster. He's 2nd generation in the business & is really good at what he does. Does not damage the sheet metal but does get rid of the old thick undercoating , dirt, grime & rust. Plus, unfortunately, shows up rust in places you might have thought were rust free.
After getting the bed back in the shop , I put the wife to work helping me remove the fenders. I was up inside the fenders with the torch heating the nuts on the bolts while she used a small impact wrench with # 3 Phillips bit to run the screws out . Worked out well, but I'll still get a new bolt kit for the fenders but it'll be good to have some old spares in case I need them.
Of course, the angle strips that are spot welded to the bed sides were completely rusted out, so I used an air chisel & grinder to finish removing them.
Then primered everything to cover the bare metal.
The left side fender , which has the spare tire cutout seems to not be currently available , so it looks like I'll be doing some major rust repair on the fender. (The wife & I really like the side mount spare. So switching to the plain fender which is available, is not an option.)
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1966 C-10 Short Stepside HiPo Step-by-step ~ and on-going resto build in the Project Journals
The bed was in much better condition then the cab, thankfully. Turns out the bed is square, all cross members including the rear sill are in good shape & the sides, while having some rust pitting and some dings, are nice & straight. So except for replacing the front panel that was rusted out & new angle strips, I decided the bed was good enough to use as is.
Also, my plan to have my fuel filler off to the side in the bed floor didn't work out so I've come up with filler cap located in the LR fender which I believe will work well.
A few photos below .
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1966 C-10 Short Stepside HiPo Step-by-step ~ and on-going resto build in the Project Journals
Got bed wood bolted down & bed mounted on truck, permanently , I hope. Everyone but me probably knows this trick, but when installing a rear mount tank, especially like the 21 gal tank I have, you pretty much close off any access to two of the rear bed mounting bolts. Using the top hole in the frame as a guide, I drilled the bottom flange of the frame and used two 12" carriage bolts instead of the 5 or 6 " bolts that come with a kit. One side just dropped right in place, the other took about 10 minutes of jiggling. Hopefully the photo below will help explain.
Sorry, I don't have any photos , but Santa, disguised as my oldest daughter brought a Yukon dura trac for Christmas. Got that installed & buttoned up. Used a dial indicator to check back lash before disassembly & reassembled (the pinon to ring gear) back lash to the same spec. Installed new carrier bearings ,wheel bearings & grease seals. Used the Yukon shim kit & Yukon posi trac lube additive along with the recommended gear lube. I feel confident re the install but a proper road test will let me know if I did good or not.
After finishing up the posi install, I installed all new hardware including new drums & emergency cables on the rear brakes.
Next step is installing E brake cables & hardware , long with plumbing up the rear brakes.
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If jack stand and floor is level the front right corner of the bed needs a little shimming. I am running into the same issue right now on my bed, but its the right rear.
If jack stand and floor is level the front right corner of the bed needs a little shimming. I am running into the same issue right now on my bed, but its the right rear.
Very much enjoy your pics.
Good catch. Front tires are mis-matched, I borrowed tires & wheels just to have something that would hold air. I'll look at all that once I get it on 4 matched tires & wheels. I'm sure I'll have a long punch out list.
Glad you're enjoying the photos. The old saying is "One photo is worth a thousand words"
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Spend yesterday working on the spare tire rack & mock fitting it on truck. One of the tire mounting studs was broken off when I got the truck. The studs are factory installed in such a way that the mounting rods are welded onto the back side of the studs. Rather than try to disassemble all those welds in order to replace a oem stud that's probably not available anyway, I cut the broken stud off flush with mounting plate, center punched the cut off stud as accurately as I could. Then drilled thru the remaining stud & the mounting rods & welds . Then slid a 7'16 fine thread grade 8 bolt into the hole, bolted on a tire to make sure stud was centered up properly then brazed bolt in place. Seems to have worked out well. Also chased the threads on the other two studs to clean them up.
Also worked on fitting the tire rack & all the supporting brackets, including the one under the bed. Pretty much took all day to sort it all out. I'll leave it all in place till I'm ready to Paint the fenders, tailgate Etc.
Replaced the last piece of the old original worn out suspension bits as well. I'd been waiting for a good used piece to come along & finally found one via Ebay.
Hopefully photos will help explain.
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1966 C-10 Short Stepside HiPo Step-by-step ~ and on-going resto build in the Project Journals
You’ve got a really nice project going on and you’re making great progress. I’m interested in seeing how your rear fenders turn out. You do have a bit of rust to repair, but judging by your past work, that should be a piece of cake. Your bed looks awesome!
Keep up the good work!
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Re the tank, I also am doing a 66 SB SS and am curious where you are going to put the filler? (Before I order my tank᠁looking for ideas, would like to keep the filler out of the bed area.) Thanks! Alan
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Also, my plan to have my fuel filler off to the side in the bed floor didn't work out so I've come up with filler cap located in the LR fender which I believe will work well.
A few photos below .
This is the plan. Still a work in progress though.
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Got the rear brakes plumbed up & bled. I'm really pleased with the petal "feel" & how brakes work. Nice full petal& smooth application, at least in the parking lot. Hopefully they'll be equally as good out on the road. Still waiting on a couple of E brake parts but that should only take a little time to finish install & adjustment.
My left rear fender with the spare tire cutout is in pretty bad shape. According to my online research there are currently no new reproduction short ss spare tire cutout fenders being produced. I found a used one online that said it had dents & surface rust for either 4 or 500 (don't recall which). Allow 200 for freight & maybe sales tax & I'm up to maybe 600 to 750 for a used fender that needs work. Also, no one makes patch panels for these fenders, that I could find.
I had the bed, with fenders still installed , sandblasted to get rid of the original heavy (thick) undercoating & to remove & kill any rust. That meant that the mounting flanges for mating the fenders to the bed did not get sandblasted. So along with repairing the rust & dents that I could see, I also had rust damage on the flanges as well.
Hopefully pics below will show my progress on bringing fender back to life. It won't win any prizes but it will serve my needs. I'll probably outlast me LOL. There's a heavy commercial/industrial roofing company next door to my shop that has it's own metal fab shop. I was able to pickup some scrap pieces of 20 gauge & have them bend a 2" 90 degree bend in a few of those pieces. The rest of the bending & shaping had to be done by hand. Then after metal was brazed in place, roughed all reworked areas with 36/40 grit disc & smoothed over thin layer of body filler as needed. Also, prior to starting work on fender, I treated the rusty, non sandblasted areas with Rustolum rust killer gel, which worked realy well, imo.
The work in progress below.
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More photos of LR fender refurbishing. Body filler smoothing out metal patches, bolt flange repairs , rusted out back up light area & big dent hammered (on rear of fender) out as well as possible . Not quite finished yet. My 35 year old in line air sander gave up the ghost. Picked up a new one from HF so I 'm back in business.
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Finally got around to shooting the rear fenders & the spare tire rack. After body work, several coats of primer & several passes with glazing putty & lots of block sanding, We were ready for two coats of non sanding sealer primer & 3 coats of acrylic enamel w/hardner. Things were looking pretty good when I left the shop. Hopefully it’ll still be that way In a couple days. The last photo is the LR fender with the rusted out backup light area repaired. Still have to drill necessary holes to mount a new bu light
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Kevin 1951 Chevy 3100 work truck Follow this saga in Project Journal Photos 1929 Ford pickup restored from the ground up. | 1929 Ford Special Coupe (First car) Busting rust since the mid-60's If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together.
Starting to look more & more like a truck. A friend is visiting from up north for a couple days so I put him to work helping me install newly painted rear fenders Probably tackle the tailgate next
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What is the hole on the top of the driver's fender for?
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy) 1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1956 Cadillac Sixty Special Fleetwood (The Godfather) | 1966 Oldsmobile Toronado (The Purple Knif) | 1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe | 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
No major advancements on the C10, just small odds & ends. Have had a slight cold engine valve tap from the Morel roller lifters. After reading all I could on line ,the best & most easily tried solution I found was to change from the 15/40 diesel (high zinc) oil to the thinner 10/30 oil that was spec'ed for this engine originally. Plus the RV this engine came out of had large oil cooler mounted. It called for 8 qts of oil. I guessed that I cut that back to 7 qts by not installing an oil cooler, but have now cut that back to 6 qts. One cam supplier who seems to be a high volume distributor for Morel says that the oil orifices in Morels are small & have trouble flowing the thicker oil when cold. Makes sense to me, plus it was easy to test.
Also found a leak in my header pipes that I had brazed up when I first got the engine running. Removed that pipe , re-brazed & re-installed, installed side exit tail pipes along with tail pipe hangers . Exhaust is nice & quiet yet still sounds throaty (If that makes any sense LOL) It all just clamped together for now. We'll see how it does once the truck is on the road.
Picked up a matching set of 15 X 6 wheels & tires off a mid '80's K10 & installed as-is (for now) just to see how truck sets with matching tires & wheels. Had to shim R front corner of bed to level it up.
Did a few other small things, installed rubber door bumpers, rear view mirror, new dome light, new tail lights, etc.
Sorry, not too many photos.
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Started on my least favorite part of this project, installing the American Autowire kit I bought about a year ago. It's been slow but steady progress. I've installed the headlights, parking lights & backup lights as part of this phase of the project. I'm about, by my estimate, 3/4 of the way thru the wiring. The donor alternator that came with the '92 model 454 didn't match up with the wiring kit, but I managed to find the alt that I needed at the local parts for a reasonable price & they took the old one as a core.
A few photos below showing work in progress.
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Very nice clean installation. It's always great when things work like they are supposed to - LOL!
~ Dan 1951 Chevy 3 window 3100 Follow this story in the DITY Gallery "My Grandpa Carl's Truck and How it Became Mine" 1966 Chevelle (Wife's Hot Rod) | 2013 Chevy Silverado (Current daily driver) US Army MSG Retired (1977-1998) | Com Fac Maint Lead Tech Retired (1998-2021)
Truck is really coming together quickly. Looks like a real sleeper. Great job!
Jeff 1951 Chevrolet 3100 Follow his build in the Project Journals 1969 Chevrolet Camaro Convertible | 2020 Chevrolet Silverado | 3500 Duramax | 2021 GMC Sierra Denali USAF Veteran 1983-1987 | PSP retired 1990- 2012
Still pecking away on the C10. Got carpet installed, still need to extend the pivots for the stock style gas petal. Also got around to greasing the front suspension. Cleaned & painted the ‘86 K10 15x6 wheels, had new 235/75R15 ww’s mounted & installed on truck along with my new to me mid 80’s dogdish hubcaps. Also installed new 3 point seat belts but don’t have pics
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Have you filled up your tank at the gas station yet? That looks like a tight fit for a gasoline nozzle to squeeze under the bed rail.
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy) 1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1956 Cadillac Sixty Special Fleetwood (The Godfather) | 1966 Oldsmobile Toronado (The Purple Knif) | 1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe | 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
Hey Otto, No I don’t have it tagged yet , so no trips to a gas station yet. Pic posted should give a better idea of gas filler to bedside relation. I don’t believe access will be a problem
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Oh ya. It looked like it was way under there in the other picture.
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy) 1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1956 Cadillac Sixty Special Fleetwood (The Godfather) | 1966 Oldsmobile Toronado (The Purple Knif) | 1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe | 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
According to my research , the short SS spare tire fender is not available new. I like the looks of with or without. Ours just happened to have it , so we stayed with that look. Especially now that the gas tank is located where the spare would’ve been
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Been working on odds & ends recently. Had to adjust the stop light switch to get brake lights to go out after applying brakes.
Also, while I really liked the 17", 6 blade clutch fan I had fitted, after much time spent trying come up with a workable radiator shroud, I finally gave up & went with an electric fan. Found a really nice aluminum shroud on ebay, made in the USA, that fits my radiator perfectly. Fitted a Spal 16" fan operated by temp control sender threaded in to the cooling system. Also fitted,again via ebay, 2"x12" round rad. overflow catch can. All seems to be working out well. Yesterday was in the low to mid 90's here & temps never went over 190F.
I decided to mount the old rear step bumper that came with the truck. It's got the name & town of (what I assume) is the original selling dealer. Horton Chevy-Olds in Paragould Ark. I googled Horton & found he was a WW2 vet , served Oknawa, Iwo Jima & other So. Pacific action. Seemed like as good a reason as any to keep the bumper. I did narrow it by 6" to make fit the stepside width better. I would have cut it down even more, but that would have cut off a portion of the dealers name.
Finally got around to getting the tags, title & insurance squared away too. After finishing up the rear bumper & electric fan I suddenly realized I was ready for my first on road test drive . Only went about 6 miles, mostly, if not all, in a 35 mph zone. Very happy with first drive, nothing broke, truck ran very smooth & we made it back under our own power. The ralatively tall 2.58 first gear coupled with the 3.08 rear diff was no problem at all. The 454 has so much torque right of idle all seems perfectly matched.
Next up is to replace the used 750 cfm Edelbrock performer carb with the new in the box 800 cfm Edelbrock AVS2 I got sitting on the workbench. I bought the 750 for cheap a couple yrs ago just to get the engine running. I'd been keeping an eye out for the AVS to come up on a sale, so when I had the chance I took advantage of the sale price
Sorry re the lack of photos. I did remember to take these shots before taking the first test drive.
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Drove the truck home from my shop a few weeks ago. Next morning my wife helped me clean it up, it's amazing how much dirt, dust & grime can get on a vehicle that's stored indoors 100% of the time.
Test drive home was in temps in the mid 90's, speed about 50 mph max. The good news is the cooling system was doing it's job, staying at about 185/190 . The bad news is the oil pressure was just too low for comfort out on the road & at those temps. Back at the beginning of this thread I described how I got this engine. It seemed to run well & had adequate oil pressure, so I decided to run it like it was was. Wrong move on my part. What would've bee an easy job while the engine was out of the truck & up on the bench turned into a real PIA with it in the truck. Thankfully it was just a straight forward job of installing new std main & rod bearings along with a new oil pump. I could've pulled the engine from the truck in order to work on it but just couldn't bring myself to do that.
I was having two other engine related problems that needed investigating & correcting while I had it up on jack stands & disassembled. One was a very slight leak from the front timing cover seal. I had installed a new one & cleaned everything up well when I installed it, so I was curious & perplexed about why the leak. Earlier in the thread I recounted installing a cheap ebay no name Chinese intake manifold that had mis-alignned water jackets (or ports) that did not properly align with the ports in the heads. I ended up with engine coolant in the oil. I thought letting the oil drain for a few days before putting in fresh oil & filter took care of all that, along with installing a new , name brand intake manifold, of course. Turns out, there is a drain cutaway in the timing cover that allows oil to rapidly drain away from the crank seal , so oil won't puddle up against the inside of the seal. That cutaway was filled with what looked like baby poop, a thick, tan mixture of oil & water that was too thick to drain or pass through the cutaway , causing oil to puddle against the oil seal.
The other problem I needed to solve is eratic ign timing. Timing started out OK, then became more & more erratic. The timing light was showing timing jumping around as much 10 degree ATDC to 20 degrees BTBC. The mechanical problems that could cause that is too much end play in the roller cam, letting the cam move back & forth changing the relationship between the distributor drive gears. The other could be too much end play in the distributor shaft, letting the shaft move up & down & changing ign timing as it movd up or down. Since I had the timing cover off, I checked the end play of the cam. I used all Gen Vi GM parts when I installed the cam & the Gen V engine is factory machined to accept the Gen VI cam, cam retainer & single row timing chain. I didn't expect the end play to be a problem but I had to recheck it. It was perfect. The distributor OTOH, had .039 endplay, should have been about 1/2 that much (with an aluminum housing). I got a shim kit from Morroso & shimed it to .015.
Spun the engine with the plugs out to prime the oil pump. Just a couple rpms is all it needed for oil pressure to register. Finished installing plugs, engine fired right up, oil pressure looks good, no leaks, But the timing light was still showing some ign scatter. Not as bad as before, but still there. As I was turning out the shop lights preparing to pack it up for the days, the dim light under the hood allowed me to see spark arcing between both the - & the + posts on the coil to the tower of the coil (where the coil wire connects) I think my coil or plug wires might have too much resistance & causing the short.
At that point I was done for the day. Going out of town for a week. I was happy to finally find a reason for the scattered timing. I'll dig into it when we get back.
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Installed new coil, AC/Delco oem type carbon core plug wires, Jegs distributor cap & rotor. Just like that, scattered timing is is gone. ( I believe that I had aftermarket plug wires that were not compatible with the Jegs R2R distributor , which in turn caused the other ign parts to fail) Set timing at 12 degrees initial with vacuum advance disconnected, total advance is 36 degrees total. Reconnected vacuum advance to ported outlet per Jegs distributor instructions. Installed my new Edelbrock AVS 2 800 cfm carb. Engine is running very nice now.
Went to my first Cruise n this morning. I haven't strayed too far from home yet as I haven't had the front end aligned yet. But truck runs very well on my short jaunts so far. The Edelbrock AVS 2 works down low ,just off idle, very well. Even with the roller HO cam & 3:08 differential, found myself cruising down the road ,in traffic, at 1000-1200 rpm in 4 gear with no bucking or hesitation when accelerating. Very happy with the cam, distributor, carb & intake choice. I'm not happy with the mufflers though. Truck sounds good at idle & lower rpm's, but sounds like an old Buick with a clogged up catalytic converter when it's being revved up. Not sure about replacements.
One other problem is the electric Spal 3000 cfm fan I've installed. Fan works very well at keeping engine cool, but sounds like one of those old WW2 German dive bombers . It is LOUD. I have a lower cfm Chinese fan that runs nice & quiet. I'm going to try it & see if it'll keep things cool.
Sorry no new photos of latest work. I even forgot to take photos of my truck at the cruise in this morning. I do have photos of other Stovebolt trucks I took at the cruise in that I'll post in the Southern Bolters section.
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No new photos for this post. Found an old school shop about 40 miles north of my shop that specializes in front end alignment for older vehicles. My appointment time meant I was mixing it up with morning work commuters The C10 held its own, did pretty good, actually. The shop owner was amazed at how close the alignment was, asked how I got it so close. I didn’t want to tell him it was dumb luck LOL. Any way, it’s lined up perfectly now, with steering wheel centered up & no pulling or wandering. Overall, very pleased. Still lots of odds & ends to address.
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I used the 2x4 and tape measure method on my 66. It goes straight with no pulling and a straight wheel. I am going to wait until I see some tire wear to see if any odd patterns show up.
Sounds like you have your castor & camber & toe in pretty close. Apparently I did too but I still feel better having it dialed in. It had to be done sooner or later.
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Repaired a few shipping dings in my new tailgate, shot it with 3 coats of Acrylic enamel with hardner & installed decal letters on raised bosses. The decals worked out so well that I ordered a set for the grille as well.
I don't have photos, but I also broke the brazing on the inside panel of the drivers door that I had installed to fix the rusted out door bottom and took a little (as in tiny) bit of curve out of the door. Goal was to allow a little less binding on the bottom of inside of door & weather strip down by the sill strip. I only did as much as I could without damaging the outside of the door panel. Of course, I then had to redo the body work & repaint the affected area. Both the interior slate grey & the Viper red. Door closes much better, though still not perfect & the paint turned out well. I just didn't have enough ambition to completely strip the door & make it open & close perfectly.
If I ever do another rust resto job involving replacing floor panels, inner & outer rockers, A & B door posts, cab corners, etc, &/or door panels, I'll have the weather striping in place for the trial fit of the doors prior to final welding. I did the usual fitting of the doors as I was doing this cab, but not having the weather strip in place changes everything, in my experience.
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Installed the black letter decals on the grille Turned out well, I think. This might be common knowledge, but it was new to me. To make installing the letters easy , spray the indentation where the new decal goes with some soapy water. Makes moving the letter around to get a more perfect fit easier.Then just leave them sit, when water drys they’re done. Installed letters yesterday as described and did a 100 mile rd trip this morning, half of it in the rain, and letters are doing fine
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Finally got around to programing the electronic speedometer I installed way back when. Took a couple phone calls to the hot line at the folks who sold me my gauges, but all is well now. Speedo is accurate now. 40 mph on the gps equals 40 mph on the speedo. Also, the high beam (bright blue led) indicator light had been installed by the factory in place of the left turn indicator, so I had to remove instrument cluster to change that around. That worked out well too. Next up will be the gas gauge. Currently when tank is full, gauge reads a pinch over 1/4 full. When it indicates empty, it's about at the 1/2 way mark.
There's a little write up about the truck at a local cruise in on this Southern Bolters thread if anyone is interested.
Sorry, no photos this time.
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The c10 got sideboards & Christmas decorations for the town's Christmas parade at my grand daughters request. (Photos below) I was concerned about how well the 454 with a HO roller cam & M20 manual 4 speed would behave in the parade. Route was about 1 mile at walking speed with GD & three kids in the back tossing out candy canes & peppermints . The 454 behaved perfectly. Just idled along at 700 rpm's with me feathering the clutch as needed. Temps stayed at 180. Couldn't be more pleased with the new Edelbrock 800 AVS 2 carb I installed when I finally got truck roadworthy.
This Gen V low compression, Peanut port 454 with The Gen VI HO crate motor roller cam, Wieand 8122N intake manifold, 800 AVS carb & Jegs small cap R2R distributor make an excellent street engine. Very well mannered at low speed & plenty of get up go when called upon. And still used 87 Oct gas .
Edit: Deleted photo of GD & kids .
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Had to repaint the metal stripes in pickup bed. The two lawn chairs my grand daughter & great granddaughter used for the Christmas parade did a number them. I should have done a better job of protecting the floor.
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How exciting! That is in the long term plans for me too.
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Just received a Christmas present via FedEx (OK, It’s a present to myself ).
Those are the best kind. You always get what you want.
Kevin 1951 Chevy 3100 work truck Follow this saga in Project Journal Photos 1929 Ford pickup restored from the ground up. | 1929 Ford Special Coupe (First car) Busting rust since the mid-60's If you're smart enough to take it apart, you darn well better be smart enough to put it back together.
I'll be watching your installation closely. This is a must for Linda's 1960 C10.
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I’ll try to remember to take lots of photos. I wanted to get the truck on the road, have a little fun with it & work out some bugs be fore retro fitting the ac/heat unit. I’ve accomplished that , so now it’s ac time. A truck in Florida without ac in the summer(which seems to last about 9 months) isn’t going to get much use
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Installed another Christmas present from the oldest daughter & SIL. Might change location once A/C is installed. A few photos below Fyi, the wife likes the wood rack as is but I’m going to remove it & save it for next years Christmas parade, assuming the grand daughter & family want to do it again
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Started on Vintage Air kit installation. Compressor, condenser & dryer so far. Going to a Cruise In this weekend, so I’ll start on the interior part next week
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Your truck looks great. I'll bet it's a real sleeper too. ! Enjoy
Jeff 1951 Chevrolet 3100 Follow his build in the Project Journals 1969 Chevrolet Camaro Convertible | 2020 Chevrolet Silverado | 3500 Duramax | 2021 GMC Sierra Denali USAF Veteran 1983-1987 | PSP retired 1990- 2012
Got back to work on the Vintage Air install. Haven't installed any others but this Gen 5 VA kit is very well thought out with good instructions. Kit comes with every screw & piece of hardware needed to complete installation. I think heater hose & a fan belt were the only additional purchases required. Of the 3 ac hoses supplied with kit, one came with both fittings installed. The other 2, which run from the unit inside the cab to the underhood area had one fitting that had to be installed locally. Reason being instructions said to measure hose length & cut to fit. But in fact, just like everything else in this kit the length was perfect on both hoses. A local shop charged 8 bucks to install the fittings. As of now, install is complete up to the making sure all blower functions work correctly & the heater function works & no leaks. (Instructions come with check list after completing install.) Later today the ac charge should be completed . At that point I'll install the kit supplied reduced size glove box & cover, install will then be complete.
A few more photos below.
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I used the standard rotary controls that came with kit. I'll try to remember to get installed photo & post it. They seem like they'll be ok, the deluxe controls are several hundred dollars extra.
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Photo of std rotary controls installation. Kit comes with a template for drilling the dash. Top knob is in the original heater control location. Vacuum & charging of system didn't happen yesterday as planed, so I did a tool loan from Auto Zone & plan on completing the job today.
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Finished charging system. Temps were only 70F so need to wait for a nice 80F day to check how well it does on the road. Vintage air said the center duct should read between 36f & 42F, I'm at 40F. The shop temp was 75F at time of charging. I don't have a photo, but I installed 1000 cfm 8" pusher fan in front of the condenser, wired to come on when the compressor engages. Truck has a 3000 cfm 16"puller fan, The 8" was the largest I could fit without pulling the grille or grille shell assembly, so I took path of least resistance. A road test on a warm day will let me know how it all works out.
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Wife & took a 150 mile (or so) test ride last weekend. Nice warm sunny day, so we were happy to have the AC up & running. Worked very well, thankfully. Controls worked well , under dash vents made blocking or changing air direction easy. Once initial cooling of the cab took place, then AC was run mostly at very low speed. Really does a nice job.
Had some of the peel & stick insulation I'd used on the firewall left over (Shown in earlier post), so I installed the rest on underside of the hood. Seems to help with engine noise in cab.
We're planning a approx 2000 mi trip with the c10 in late May/early June, so we're using these test drives to find anything that needs help. I thought the wife would want a quieter exhaust, for example. But she says she likes it as is. Most drives have been on non interstate roads , so speeds have been 60 mph or less. We did about 10 miles of interstate at 70 mph on this latest test drive. Cab noise seemed to greatly increase, but truck did fine otherwise. At 60 or less, normal conversation possible, at 70 mph it's not.
The plan for the upcoming trip is non interstate roads, but we can do the big road if need be.
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Looks like great continued progress and glad to hear about the road shake down trips being a success! Curious about the road noise above 60mph??? Is it more wind noise, or just overall general operating noises?
BTW - Drop some pics in the Who uses their truck... thread in the GTT forum from some of your shake down drives or even the trip. We would all love to see it out on the road.
~ Dan 1951 Chevy 3 window 3100 Follow this story in the DITY Gallery "My Grandpa Carl's Truck and How it Became Mine" 1966 Chevelle (Wife's Hot Rod) | 2013 Chevy Silverado (Current daily driver) US Army MSG Retired (1977-1998) | Com Fac Maint Lead Tech Retired (1998-2021)
The increased noise at 70 or so seems to be a combination of road, engine & wind. I noticed the wife holding her hand up to the window & door jams as if she her checking for sources of some noise while we were on the interstate Also, even though I have a 3:08 rear & 28.8”tall tires, truck still has a 4th direct transmission. That puts engine speed up around 25/2600 rpm’s at 70ish. Overall, though, the overall comfort zone for the truck seems to be in sub-70 mph speeds. The 454 has massive torque, it could easily use a 5th OD transmission. But , so far, I’m happy with my $600 m20 4spd with Hurst shifter. As for posting in the using the truck as a truck, the only thing we’ve hauled so far are ourselves . I have posted a little bit in the Southern Bolters thread. Thanks for checking in and the suggestion
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Road trip in your truck actually counts when it comes to using your truck as a truck! At least IMHO and I will encourage everyone to do just that and enjoy as folks want to share with everyone!
Hope your day is great!
~ Dan 1951 Chevy 3 window 3100 Follow this story in the DITY Gallery "My Grandpa Carl's Truck and How it Became Mine" 1966 Chevelle (Wife's Hot Rod) | 2013 Chevy Silverado (Current daily driver) US Army MSG Retired (1977-1998) | Com Fac Maint Lead Tech Retired (1998-2021)
Follow up on the 150 mile round trip road trip we took last Sunday. I noticed a little fluid under the truck a couple days after our drive. Got under the truck w/ a flashlight & followed to drip to its source. Antifreeze dripping right out of the shaft/ seal area. I knew better than to use a water pump that had been sitting for 10 yrs even if it was full of antifreeze. But, all is well now. AC continues to do well too, so there must not be any leaks there. Sorry, no photos
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Did you replace the water pump? It may have fixed itself after more driving and limbering up.
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy) 1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1956 Cadillac Sixty Special Fleetwood (The Godfather) | 1966 Oldsmobile Toronado (The Purple Knif) | 1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe | 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
Yes. That truck of yours needs a OD. My 66 with the 383 and 5 speed is decent quiet at 70, but I got sound deadener everywhere in the cab too, so maybe that helps? I can run it down to 1200 to 1500 rpms and it has all the tq it needs to pull out of the hole.
I have to admit I've been reading up on the Gear Vendors OD unit for the Muncie M20 trans. We'll see how we feel after our upcoming trip to Tn. If I'm going to stay local( ish), then the 4spd is fine. If we decide we like doing long distance trips, that might change. At any rate, I like my M20 with Hurst shifter, not to mention how my existing motor mounts, clutch linkage ,exhaust manifolds ,etc all fit & work together. The GV OD unit would let me keep all that. Plus the GV has a high torque rating which would work well with the 454,I believe. Thanks for the input regards your OD experience.
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Recently decided to try to improve the ride by removing the new stock replacement rear springs with 2” drop springs. When I was able to measure the new 2” drop springs vs the oem springs, I found the drop springs were only 1/2” shorter than the oem’s. However, the oem springs are progressively wound, where the 2” drop springs are straight wound. I had read that the straight wound springs would give a better ride. After installing the new springs I measured the drop and found it had lowered the rear of the truck about one inch, which was fine with me.. Installation was easy since everything was clean, rust free & coated with never seize. A few photos below.
1966 C-10 Short Stepside HiPo Step-by-step ~ and on-going resto build in the Project Journals
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy) 1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1956 Cadillac Sixty Special Fleetwood (The Godfather) | 1966 Oldsmobile Toronado (The Purple Knif) | 1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe | 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
As some may know, I’ve had a thread in the projects & builds forum. Here lately, The project has progressed from a shop project to a tagged & driveable project with the goal/plan to drive it to Townsend Tn for the AD show & Stovebolt get together. I’ve posted a few Saturday shakedown runs we’ve done as I’ve made improvements & or repairs as needed. Recently someone suggested I post here instead of my build thread or the Southern thread, so here I am. I recently switched from stock height rear coil springs on our 66 c10 to 2” drop with the goal of leveling the truck out a little & mainly to improve the ride. Especially with our 2000 or so mile trip coming up. The Dixie Cruisers, an old car/truck club here in Brevard Co host a cruise in once a month at the Dog R Us Restaurant on US one in Titusville Fl that attended this past Saturday. It was a perfect day for an outing with an old truck , 50 mi drive one way, no interstate. We got there early, had a nice lunch and were able get a premium parking spot in the grass under some palm trees. The wife is becoming an old hand at this and has equipped our truck with two folding lawn chairs in soft carrier bags so not to scratch the pickup bed floor. Just for the record to 2” drop springs, which turned out to be 1” drop work very nicely for our purposes . If we were carrying a load sometimes, I’d have left it as is. The Vintage Air I installed just prior to the springs, continues to work very well too. Anyhow, a great day out with the truck, lots of interest & nice comments from fellow gearheads at the Dogs R Us/ Dixie Cruisers cruise in. I apologize for the few photos. If I’d know I was going to do a long winded post, I’d have taken more photos
Last edited by RLB; 04/28/20256:34 PM. Reason: Gramer
1966 C-10 Short Stepside HiPo Step-by-step ~ and on-going resto build in the Project Journals
Looks pretty good slightly lowered. In fact I think you're lucky it only dropped an inch instead of 2 inches. It looks good with just a little raised rear end.
1950 Chevrolet 3100 (Ol' Roy) 1939 Packard Standard Eight Coupe (The Phantom) | 1956 Cadillac Coupe de Ville (The Bismarck) | 1956 Cadillac Sixty Special Fleetwood (The Godfather) | 1966 Oldsmobile Toronado (The Purple Knif) | 1966 Ford Mustang (Little Red) | 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 coupe | 1979 Ford F-100 | 1976 Ford F-150 (Big Red) | 1995 Ford F-150 (Newt)
Jeff 1951 Chevrolet 3100 Follow his build in the Project Journals 1969 Chevrolet Camaro Convertible | 2020 Chevrolet Silverado | 3500 Duramax | 2021 GMC Sierra Denali USAF Veteran 1983-1987 | PSP retired 1990- 2012
Just finished installing correct fuel gauge sending unit that matches the '70-72 Blazer 21 gal fuel tank with my new Dolphin gauge set. The Dolphin gauges came with the correct 90 ohm sending unit but it was for the original in cab fuel tank. The Blazer tank came with a 30 ohm sending unit to work with the original 66 C10 gas gauge. Took a couple phone calls & a bunch of online surfing but I finally found the correct sending unit . I had actually gotten used to the fuel gauge reading with the 30 ohm sending unit. When full it read about 1/3 full, then when reading empty, it took about 10 or 12 gal. Leaving me with a cushion of about 10 gal. Mom was not happy with my willngness to leave things as is (or was) in light of our upcoming trip to Tn for the Southern Stovebolt get together. Then, as luck would have it, the brass float on the original Blazer sending unit started taking on fuel, which left me with no gauge at all.
The more I looked at the way the Blazer tank was shoehorned in place, including the filler neck & two vent lines, plus the tank had 20 gal of fuel in it, I decided to raise the bed about a foot and install new 90 ohm sending unit without pulling the tank. Sounds like a lot more work, but with everything being fresh, clean & rust free it actually went quite well considering. To top it all off, fuel gauge now works correctly.
Also ordered two marine grade charcoal cannisters to eliminate gas fumes when parked in a closed or confined space. While road testing after work was completed, truck had an occasional stumble (This was over an 80 mi or so drive in 91 F ,sunny weather with AC on) I decided that the two newly installed canisters will not let tank suck in air fast enough as fuel is being drawn down (or used up) To correct this, I located a fuel tank vent valve from a 70-72 full size Chevy car that's vacuum operated.. I'll plumb it so that tank can draw air when engine is running but will vent thru charcoal canisters when engine is off. All vent lines will have in line filters to prevent dirt (or charcoal) from being drawn into the tank.
While under the truck, I also noticed the the new (two years on the shelf.one year on the truck & about 1500 miles) Monroe gas shocks were leaking. A little online research & I found a pair of KYB gas shocks for a reasonable price. They were installed while truck was on jack stands.
Our 80 mile test drive was to the front end shop that lined the front end originally back in Sept,'24. I thought it had a little too much toe in, after putting truck on the rack, the tech agreed with me. He made a little adjustment & truck steers the best yet. Plus I discovered I was running a little bit too much PSI in front tires. I had 35 psi, thinking of the extra weight of the BBC engine, but since dropping psi to 32, steering improved. Live & learn as they say. Edit: Added matching key door locks in preparation for upcoming trip. A few photos below.
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1966 C-10 Short Stepside HiPo Step-by-step ~ and on-going resto build in the Project Journals
Well, we cut short our trip to Tn due to a leaky power steering pump that I was afraid would get worse quickly. We made it home OK . Trip for us totaled 1010 miles door to door. Other than the leaky PS & a disintegrating alternator belt (that I replaced in front of parts store), the truck ran great. Pretty much an average of 4 250 mile days. 454 has used less than a pint of oil in around 2000 miles. Got between 11.1 & 12.4 mpg, Almost no interstate but mostly major 4 lane highways with some 2 lane, In spite of missing the Stovebolt get-together, it was still a great trip. Very pleased with overall performance of truck after 3 years of work. In order to keep luggage, tools & misc out of the weather, se installed section of inexpensive in door/outdoor carpet, trimmed to fit bed. Placed it with soft side down to protect varnished wood & metal strips. I had a large mostly water proof trunk that Placed in bed up against the cab . Held in place by tie down straps. A couple photos below. I’m thinking my project build thread is coming to an end . I’m going give it some thought & then make a final post. Not sure how the mods will handle it from there.
EDIT: Don’t know how link appeared above & not in photos, sorry. Edit: I took care of it. ~ Peggy M
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1966 C-10 Short Stepside HiPo Step-by-step ~ and on-going resto build in the Project Journals
Thank you for your dedication and commitment to completing your journal. Your journey is truly commendable, and you are among the elite few who have achieved this milestone. Once you make that final post, I will move your journal to the Completed Journals forum and create a wrap-up post featuring your inspiring journey.
Phil Moderator, The Engine Shop, Interiors and Project Journals
1952 Chevrolet 3100, Three on the Tree, 4:11 torque tube Updated to: ‘59 235 w/hydraulic lifters, 12v w/alternator, HEI, PCV and Power front Disc Brakes Project Journals Stovebolt Gallery Forum
Thanks P-1. not much to say, really. Like most builders, or rebuilders, I can find fault with almost everything I’ve done on this project. But it’s the total sum of the parts that counts. In that light, the truck is a great success, imo. Besides the fact that both I & the mizzuz really enjoy the truck just as it is. And, it’s a real people pleaser & conversation starter. Which, I admit, adds to the fun & satisfaction factor. The truck is a turn key driver as well. One doesn’t need to be a mechanic to drive it. I’m sure there will be some mods or upgrades coming down the pike, but that’ll be for another thread. Thanks to all that followed along and those that offered encouragement along the way.
1966 C-10 Short Stepside HiPo Step-by-step ~ and on-going resto build in the Project Journals
Dear Stovebolt Members, We are excited to announce the latest featured journal by "RLB" in our new Completed Journals forum!
This remarkable "restomod" project showcases a stunning 1966 Chevy 1/2 ton, powered by a mighty 454 - yes, you read that right, a 454 cubic inch big block coupled to a M-20 4 speed! RLB has taken this classic truck to the next level. The existing body has undergone extensive metal replacement, ensuring a solid and beautifully restored foundation. A complete paint job tops off this impressive build, giving it a fresh and eye-catching look. And for a touch of modern comfort, air conditioning and a rearview camera have been added.
Rob embarked on this ambitious four-plus year build starting in December of 2021, pouring countless hours into bringing his vision to life. We encourage you all to check out the journal here and share your thoughts or inquiries about his incredible restomod journey. See the dedication and craftsmanship firsthand!
Best regards, Phil Moderator of the Project Journal forum
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Phil Moderator, The Engine Shop, Interiors and Project Journals
1952 Chevrolet 3100, Three on the Tree, 4:11 torque tube Updated to: ‘59 235 w/hydraulic lifters, 12v w/alternator, HEI, PCV and Power front Disc Brakes Project Journals Stovebolt Gallery Forum